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HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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> HSBC announced it had acquired the UK subsidiary of SVB for £1. What. Well, honestly, well done everybody. This was resolved over a weekend. And shows that it can be resolved.

But how? Surely it was worth more than that?

They’ll be taking on some debt too.

They’ve paid £1 (symbolic purchase price) but it’ll cost them a lot more.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad HSBC USA didn't take the US arm. HSBC have been exiting the US market for a while and more competition is always better.

We don't know who bought SVB yet it will likely be announced tomorrow (EST/PST timezone) probably. The US gov announcing the full confidence of deposits wasn't merely an altruistic move, they likely had a buyer at the time of announcement and maybe a secondary commitment to support the mortgage debt which caused the whole thing.

You may be right, but the news coverage I've seen implies that the full backstop of all deposits regardless of size was announced because there is no buyer for SVB. Basically, there just wasn't enough time for buyers to feel comfortable with pulling the trigger.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #2

> HSBC announced it had acquired the UK subsidiary of SVB for £1. What. Well, honestly, well done everybody. This was resolved over a weekend. And shows that it can be resolved.

But how? Surely it was worth more than that?

Over the long term SVB may have a positive net value, but unlocking that is likely to require short term cash injections to meet current liabilities (not to mention restaffing/integrating the bank). Those costs are the real price that HSBC is paying for SVB.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #2

> HSBC announced it had acquired the UK subsidiary of SVB for £1. What. Well, honestly, well done everybody. This was resolved over a weekend. And shows that it can be resolved.

But how? Surely it was worth more than that?

As anyone who has played Civ4 knows, everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.

But yeah, they surely should have been able to find someone willing to pay 100-10000% more than that.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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Seems like a great deal for HSBC? Presumably the competition regulator gives deals like this a free pass.

> As at 10 March 2023, SVB UK had loans of around £5.5bn and deposits of around £6.7bn. For the financial year ending 31 December 2022, SVB UK recorded a profit before tax of £88m.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #12
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't know who bought SVB yet it will likely be announced tomorrow (EST/PST timezone) probably. The US gov announcing the full confidence of deposits wasn't merely an altruistic move, they likely had a buyer at the time of announcement and maybe a secondary commitment to support the mortgage debt which caused the whole thing.

You may be right, but the news coverage I've seen implies that the full backstop of all deposits regardless of size was announced because there is no buyer for SVB. Basically, there just wasn't enough time for buyers to feel comfortable with pulling the trigger.

Ah that's very possible. It makes sense their main objective was calming the market given other banks failing, committing ahead of time to finding a long term holder to the $90B mortgage security (in addition to the large set of stable depositor assets they held) was probably a much safer bet than the other options, regardless if a buyer fully committed to either asset group.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how? Surely it was worth more than that?

They’ll be taking on some debt too. They’ve paid £1 (symbolic purchase price) but it’ll cost them a lot more.

Well, it might be more accurate to say they are taking on risk.

They are getting customers (the deposits owed to those customers is debt), but they will also be getting illiquid assets that should more or less cover the value of those deposits.

They will need to use their own liquid cash in the short term to cover any withdrawals. But in the long term they get to keep some of the customers and they should eventually profit when those illiquid assets mature.

Re: HSBC to Buy UK Arm of Silicon Valley Bank

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post #16

Seems like a great deal for HSBC? Presumably the competition regulator gives deals like this a free pass. > As at 10 March 2023, SVB UK had loans of around £5.5bn and deposits of around £6.7bn. For the financial year ending 31 December 2022, SVB UK recorded a profit before tax of £88m.

If the BoE took them over and HSBC bought them for £1 you can be sure that those numbers do not reflect the current situation.
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