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Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't help but revel in the fact that these crypto ponzi schemes are so dependent on the very banks all the cryptobros denounce, as evil holdovers from the past that will be obsoleted by their scam tokens (that no one outside their bubble even knows how to use). It's so ridiculous I just have to kind of admire it. It's like a cathedral of human hypocrisy.

How is a stable coin a Ponzi scheme?

When its assets don’t exist.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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That’s kind of amusing. By using a traditional bank to store their gold standard bullion, they had exposure to centralized banking risk, which was realized, and caused the crypto to get locked in. It’s like some sort of wacky deadlock condition.

The crypto people can take a W on this one, though. USDC transfers still work, so there's no cash flow problem... as long as you can buy your tomatoes with USDC, this won't cause you problems.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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That’s kind of amusing. By using a traditional bank to store their gold standard bullion, they had exposure to centralized banking risk, which was realized, and caused the crypto to get locked in. It’s like some sort of wacky deadlock condition.

The crypto people can take a W on this one, though. USDC transfers still work, so there's no cash flow problem... as long as you can buy your tomatoes with USDC, this won't cause you problems.

I’m not selling you these tomatoes. That USDC you’re offering isn’t liquid enough for my liking.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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USDC is managed the Centre consortium, which was founded by Circle and includes Coinbase as a member. Circle held around $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank, leading to a run on USDC which resulted in it trading for as little as $0.95 on some exchanges today (Mar 10, 2023). This represents around 30% of USDC's cash reserves and 7% of its total reserves. The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills, which are liquid an…

Circle used SVB, not Coinbase (I'm no expert though, correct me if I'm wrong) Edit: Parent comment is now correct

There is USDC liquidity on Coinbase. Which may not be redeemable for USD over the weekend because of this news.

That's why Coinbase are stopping withdrawals.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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post #6

USDC is managed the Centre consortium, which was founded by Circle and includes Coinbase as a member. Circle held around $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank, leading to a run on USDC which resulted in it trading for as little as $0.95 on some exchanges today (Mar 10, 2023). This represents around 30% of USDC's cash reserves and 7% of its total reserves. The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills, which are liquid an…

Circle used SVB, not Coinbase (I'm no expert though, correct me if I'm wrong) Edit: Parent comment is now correct

Edited parent.

USD Coin is managed by a consortium called Centre, which was founded by Circle and includes members from the cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase. Circle used SVB.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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USDC is managed the Centre consortium, which was founded by Circle and includes Coinbase as a member. Circle held around $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank, leading to a run on USDC which resulted in it trading for as little as $0.95 on some exchanges today (Mar 10, 2023). This represents around 30% of USDC's cash reserves and 7% of its total reserves. The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills, which are liquid an…

Exactly! The situation should be similar for all other stable coins.

DAI has quite a substantial percentage of USDC in their reserves as well.

We could witness another death spiral. Let's see how events turn out to be.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Tether, the Sauron of stablecoins, has zero exposure to SVB and is holding the peg just fine. Sorry Patio and friends, maybe next time :)

Of course they wouldn’t have exposure to a bank in the US. There’s a reason that Tether has to do business with the more dodgy kind of offshore banks… Their exposure to any banks is likely far, far smaller than their claimed cash reserves, so it’s unlikely to be a bank crash that stops the Tether musical chairs…

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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USDC is managed the Centre consortium, which was founded by Circle and includes Coinbase as a member. Circle held around $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank, leading to a run on USDC which resulted in it trading for as little as $0.95 on some exchanges today (Mar 10, 2023). This represents around 30% of USDC's cash reserves and 7% of its total reserves. The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills, which are liquid an…

Can't help but revel in the fact that these crypto ponzi schemes are so dependent on the very banks all the cryptobros denounce, as evil holdovers from the past that will be obsoleted by their scam tokens (that no one outside their bubble even knows how to use). It's so ridiculous I just have to kind of admire it. It's like a cathedral of human hypocrisy.

Or maybe you just don't understand it? The whole point of USDC is to have exposure to USD and the US banking system, which is supposed to be stable compared to other banking systems around the world. Could that maybe be why it's called USDC? Hmm.

If the US banking system starts failing, it absolutely should affect USD stable coins backed by exactly this banking system.

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