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Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by DaedPsyker »

nivertech wrote: post #4
CJefferson wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is only INTP if INTP means "horrible person" (I'd use much stronger words if I thought it wouldn't get me blocked). Someone who has worked hard is just trying to find out if they are employed. There is a massive power imbalance -- probably one of the largest power embalances two people on Earth can have, and all Elon can do is answer with memes, emojis and slander (Elon's latest tweet on the issue is "The realit…

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417

What is more disappointing to me is the amount of general unpleasant comments under this tweet. I know there will be a bias in that this will be mostly those that follow him but even still, it doesn't give me much hope.

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

#12

Post by rsynnott »

DaedPsyker wrote: post #11
nivertech wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417

What is more disappointing to me is the amount of general unpleasant comments under this tweet. I know there will be a bias in that this will be mostly those that follow him but even still, it doesn't give me much hope.

Mentioned it before, but I think that to a lot of his fans Musk has become a sort of L Ron Hubbard figure; they see him as literally infallible, so they shoulder through the cognitive dissonance and go along with this stuff. If Dear Leader says it, it must be so.

It’s pretty remarkable, really. Even the Jobs people were able to acknowledge that Apple was not perfect, generally.

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

#13

Post by jackfruitpeel »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #10
MrDresden wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is something he has openly stated that he is worried about. His disease is progressing and the aquihire was his retirement fund. Haraldur's public persona (I know of him in no other capacity) can sometimes rub people the wrong way, but I believe his heart is wholeheartedly in the right place. He moved to Iceland after Twitter aquired his design company specifically to be able to pay the maximum amount of taxes.…

His ramp initiative is very cool, he’s also setting up a cafe the past few months, but none of this is actually part of his work he’s paid for at Twitter. If Twitter was his retirement fund then I don’t know what to say really, you bet on an unknown, needlessly burned money on taxes to feel good in the short term and then treated Twitter like a side gig. I wish the guy well but just because his actions outside of Twi…

Twitter was not some sort of rest and vest retirement scheme — he worked as a design director there for years. You should read his followup thread for more context. You should also be aware that you can't just fire someone because of their disability getting worse.

It's also worth noting that the design studio he founded, Ueno, was one of the dynamic, talented and in-demand agencies in the world pre-acquisition.

https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705?s...

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by doomleika »

rasz wrote: post #14

Is this a trick to get a settlement? Because making public circus (Even if CEO is a clown) is sure fire way to get fired.

Feels more like to gut Musk. Dude had a firm aquired to Twitter in '21. and is 2nd largest tax entity in Iceland. He got Musk saying he's terminated due to disability[1] and deliberately asked HR repeatly that his JD is correct while he was employed[2].

Dude is out for blood and Musk falls for it. It's going to be a very expensive tweet for Musk.

[1] https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1633096176219160584

[2] https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082731172069379

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

jackfruitpeel wrote: post #13
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His ramp initiative is very cool, he’s also setting up a cafe the past few months, but none of this is actually part of his work he’s paid for at Twitter. If Twitter was his retirement fund then I don’t know what to say really, you bet on an unknown, needlessly burned money on taxes to feel good in the short term and then treated Twitter like a side gig. I wish the guy well but just because his actions outside of Twi…

Twitter was not some sort of rest and vest retirement scheme — he worked as a design director there for years. You should read his followup thread for more context. You should also be aware that you can't just fire someone because of their disability getting worse. It's also worth noting that the design studio he founded, Ueno, was one of the dynamic, talented and in-demand agencies in the world pre-acquisition. http…

>You should also be aware that you can't just fire someone because of their disability getting worse.

Never said that, don’t put words in my mouth. Just said if Twitter was essential to his retirement he should have had it as his main focus not tweeting about choosing tiles for his cafe in the same timeline he’s asking his boss if he has a job.

>he worked as a design director there for years.

What new design has Twitter shipped in 3 years? Sorry this all just looks like classic corporate complacency.

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by kweingar »

rasz wrote: post #14

Is this a trick to get a settlement? Because making public circus (Even if CEO is a clown) is sure fire way to get fired.

It seems that he exhausted all other options. HR wouldn’t my tell him whether he was employed or not.

What is he supposed to do in his situation? Continue twiddling his thumbs for weeks without knowing whether he will get paid or not?

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by senttoschool »

belter wrote: post #9
senttoschool wrote: post #2

I know a lot of people like Elon in real life. Not nearly as successful. But the traits are similar: - Disorganized - Takes a lot of risks - Flexible in decisions - Makes decisions on a whim without thinking through consequences - Makes bold plans without knowing exactly how to do it - Analytical - Loves science, history, tech, memes The same traits that allow him to be so successful are also traits that make him cha…

A couple more traits you missed...wont even bother providing references for each. A quick search engine query will find you all these... - Being by praised by China and Russia, in the same week, for his stance on Ukraine conflict. - Calling Pedo to a diver risking his life to save kids stuck on a Cave. - Calling a liar and lazy a employee with muscular dystrophy - https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/56C9/prod…

I’ve been positive then neutral, and now trending towards negative on Elon. I don’t agree with everything he says or does. I agree with some.

Re: Worker asks Elon Musk on Twitter: Have I been fired?

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Post by ModernMech »

rsynnott wrote: post #8
CJefferson wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is only INTP if INTP means "horrible person" (I'd use much stronger words if I thought it wouldn't get me blocked). Someone who has worked hard is just trying to find out if they are employed. There is a massive power imbalance -- probably one of the largest power embalances two people on Earth can have, and all Elon can do is answer with memes, emojis and slander (Elon's latest tweet on the issue is "The realit…

Bloody hell, even by Magic Car Man standards, this isn't great. I'm not sure what he's actually going for here? He's clearly desperate for people to like his (fairly miserable) Twitter output, but who does he think _this_ is going to appeal to?

Musk fell in with the alt-right MAGA types, where cruelty is the point. Look at it from Musk's perspective: he pulls a stunt like this, and people rush to his defense, he gets more followers, his impression count goes up, the world starts talking about him, media publishes papers about him, and at the end of the day he's getting richer while doing it. We've created a world where such people can be as awful as they want, and they can insulate themselves from any negative feedback whatsoever. Not only that, they cultivate a following of people who crave their awfulness.

Go read the Twitter comments of people defending Musk. Actually, save yourself the trouble -- they're disgusting. Musk is never going to be the one to tell them they're taking things too far. Instead, Musk is the one who will take it further the next go around, because he knows what they want to hear. There's nothing to rein him in.

Musk has created a vicious cycle for himself that he cannot recognize, and the only way he'll ever break out is if he actually suffers some semblance of negative consequences.

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