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Tesla's self-driving efforts rank last in study of self-driving companies
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Charging $15k for software that doesn't work yet, and encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads, for years, is not brave.
They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't. >encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads There are idiots everywhere. The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test. There's a delusion that it is dangero…
Great, how do I opt out of having other people's Tesla FSD near my kids?
> But is is better than most people on the road.
So says Elon. Yet he won't release disengagement data. Data speaks louder than blow hards.
Re: Tesla's self-driving efforts rank last in study of self-driving companies
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Charging $15k for software that doesn't work yet, and encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads, for years, is not brave.
They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't. >encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads There are idiots everywhere. The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test. There's a delusion that it is dangero…
> They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't.
Elon has been loudly and repeatedly saying it's a year away for what, a decade?
> The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test
Pretty sure that's no longer true.
Re: Tesla's self-driving efforts rank last in study of self-driving companies
#14It seems biased. Tesla exaggerated claims feel scammy, but at least they have a product out there. None of these “leaders” have something you can test yourself.
Anyone can get in a Waymo right now.
Re: Tesla's self-driving efforts rank last in study of self-driving companies
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Charging $15k for software that doesn't work yet, and encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads, for years, is not brave.
They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't. >encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads There are idiots everywhere. The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test. There's a delusion that it is dangero…
I owned one for 4 years and all of this is in the eye of the beholder, and constantly moving goal posts.
A lot of what FSD does & doesn't support is left intentionally vague.
At various times the FSD product page, the car sales page, and what Musk tweeted were completely out of sync as to what mode does what.
Lots of people bought the car thinking it handled situations it very much did not, and have attempted to use it in unsupported ways.
For example - poll 10 Tesla users about Autopilot on non limited-access highways use and you will get 4 different answers. Then ask them about what objects Autosteer is capable of avoiding. LOL.
Re: Tesla's self-driving efforts rank last in study of self-driving companies
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't. >encourages dangerous behavior by untrained testers on public roads There are idiots everywhere. The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test. There's a delusion that it is dangero…
> They make it clear that it's not ready yet at time of purchase and there is no definitive launch date. You are by no means required to pay for it and most people don't. Elon has been loudly and repeatedly saying it's a year away for what, a decade? > The functionality has been locked behind their driver safety score to ensure only responsible drivers can beta test Pretty sure that's no longer true.
100%
They unlocked it for all buyers without safety score requirement in December so they could book all the revenue finally
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#18Tesla's camera-only driving is a gamble. It has the _potential_ to be the best in the business.
...but it also takes a ton of computing power to determine how far objects are just from a moving image. A LIDAR unit would give you range + position instantly.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone can get in a Waymo right now.
If you are in Phoenix, AZ. And it only operates in a well-defined area.
Phoenix, AZ is one more place than Tesla can claim. There are exactly zero places on this plane of reality where your driverless Tesla will come pick you up.
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