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'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by rocket_surgeron »

acheron wrote: post #9
_-david-_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dr. Li-Meng Yan was banned on Twitter for the lab leak theory. I think her account is back now though. Do you think a Chinese born scientist is a white nationalist?

Don't feed the trolls. Click on the comment time and there's a "flag" link, which is better than replying.

Who was cancelled?

Trolling is making an assertion and then running away when the handwaving doesn't work.

Asking a question isn't trolling.

Please. I'm begging you. I'm down on my hands and knees, genuflecting: who was cancelled?

My assertion is that "the woke mob" is a boogeyman made up by liars to deflect any and all criticism of their terrible positions.

Kind of like how they spread "virtue signaling" around like manure before that phrase lost its outrage generation steam.

I will 100% change my mind if anyone can provide a single person cancelled for this.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by _-david-_ »

rocket_surgeron wrote: post #10
_-david-_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dr. Li-Meng Yan was banned on Twitter for the lab leak theory. I think her account is back now though. Do you think a Chinese born scientist is a white nationalist?

> I think her account is back now though. https://twitter.com/DrLiMengYAN1 So... not cancelled? I was promised cancellation... >Do you think a Chinese born scientist is a white nationalist? Lol looked her up, she's steve bannon's protege so who knows? Stranger things have happened.

She was cancelled and then uncanceled. It is impossible to meet your standards of cancellation unless you wait until the person dies to ensure they aren't uncanceled sometime in the future. That is ridiculous.

>Lol looked her up, she's steve bannon's protege so who knows? Stranger things have happened.

Are you going to make an actual argument or just say people she interacts are bad? Is she a racist, xenophobic white nationalist like you claimed? No? Then admit you were wrong.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by autoexec »

> Some officials briefed on the intelligence said that it was relatively weak and that the Energy Department’s conclusion was made with “low confidence,” suggesting its level of certainty was not high. While the department shared the information with other agencies, none of them changed their conclusions, officials said. (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/26/us/politics/china-lab-lea...)

I wish they would share whatever this new evidence is with the public. There's not agreement about what it means among the agencies who have seen it, so maybe having more eyes on the problem can clarify the situation.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by autoexec »

lazyeye wrote: post #5

Unfortunately due to how bad the media is now, truth is is always on a time-delay release. I think in alot of cases if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

> if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

That's not even possible. Even if you are misinformed or misunderstand something about an issue, simply having awareness of an issue makes you more informed on that subject than someone unaware that it exists.

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Post by themedia »

lazyeye wrote: post #5

Unfortunately due to how bad the media is now, truth is is always on a time-delay release. I think in alot of cases if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

Sorry, but I'm trying my best.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by _-david-_ »

autoexec wrote: post #15
lazyeye wrote: post #5

Unfortunately due to how bad the media is now, truth is is always on a time-delay release. I think in alot of cases if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

> if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic. That's not even possible. Even if you are misinformed or misunderstand something about an issue, simply having awareness of an issue makes you more informed on that subject than someone unaware that it exists.

I believe the poster is trying to say if you provide an objective assessment of the situation, a person who hasn't been tainted by the media would have the more accurate take.

Large chunks of the media assured us that it was not only impossible that the virus came from a lab but also racist and xenophobic to even suggest it. If you told the average person who didn't watch the news that a lab that studies corona viruses is in a city where a corona virus started many would just assume it came from the lab.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by hotpotamus »

_-david-_ wrote: post #17
autoexec wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic. That's not even possible. Even if you are misinformed or misunderstand something about an issue, simply having awareness of an issue makes you more informed on that subject than someone unaware that it exists.

I believe the poster is trying to say if you provide an objective assessment of the situation, a person who hasn't been tainted by the media would have the more accurate take. Large chunks of the media assured us that it was not only impossible that the virus came from a lab but also racist and xenophobic to even suggest it. If you told the average person who didn't watch the news that a lab that studies corona virus…

I always just assumed that it didn't come from a lab because it's not like polio or HIV or Chicken Pox came from a lab either.

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Post by lazyeye »

autoexec wrote: post #15
lazyeye wrote: post #5

Unfortunately due to how bad the media is now, truth is is always on a time-delay release. I think in alot of cases if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

> if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic. That's not even possible. Even if you are misinformed or misunderstand something about an issue, simply having awareness of an issue makes you more informed on that subject than someone unaware that it exists.

Completely disagree. Having an awareness that is completely wrong due to media disinformation, puts you behind someone who at least knows they are ignorant on the subject.

Re: 'Potential lab incident': FBI director Wray speaks publicly on Covid origin

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Post by [deleted] »

themedia wrote: post #16
lazyeye wrote: post #5

Unfortunately due to how bad the media is now, truth is is always on a time-delay release. I think in alot of cases if your understanding of a topic is based purely on what you've heard in the media, then you are less informed than someone who has never heard of that topic.

Sorry, but I'm trying my best.

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