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Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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In regions with depopulation there are disused buildings, unoccupied school rooms, and even churches in some cases. This is not a thing in big cities, and there are no facilities freely available to anyone.

It is possible to get subsidised rooms/studios through "study circles" for music or theatre (for example), under certain conditions for accountability.

"Folk high school" is equivalent to community college.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#12
post #7

> one can debate the morality of funding book clubs with taxpayers' money You could debate it but I would find it hard to find better uses of that money if it is spent on those would otherwise not be able to afford such things.

Libraries are already free. The money here is supposedly used for coffee (or whatever) while meeting and discussing books.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #12
post #7

> one can debate the morality of funding book clubs with taxpayers' money You could debate it but I would find it hard to find better uses of that money if it is spent on those would otherwise not be able to afford such things.

Libraries are already free. The money here is supposedly used for coffee (or whatever) while meeting and discussing books.

Literacy goes a lot further than just access to a mountain of books, having the opportunity to meet with your peers and others to discuss those books makes it a much richer experience than reading alone. It can also serve as a reality check on some of the stuff that you find in books, and can help by pointing to other interesting reading material. Books are great, books plus other people is gold.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #8

Damn that sounds awesome! As a Swede myself I feel like I missed out, and I wonder why I never saw anything like this in my youth? My best theory is there wasn't much in the very rural area where I grew up. There wasn't much of anything other than nature to be fair, so that kinda makes sense I guess...

Sure there were, but the organized study circles in Sweden are tightly knit to workers movement, usually there is an house in a village somewhere ment for this purpose. If there are at least 1000 people living there you are guaranteed find one (usually pretty big with that population). The same was (is?) available in the US, I know there where "workers education centers" in NYC where you could learn arts etc before the fifties.

This all needs people who are engaged in the movement and money, not a lot, but you do need a steady supply of money.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#15

Excellent article, and a very interesting look into how a society may accelerate its development. Perhaps maker spaces are born of a similar ethos, though of course very stem driven. Unfortunately it seems that as formal education has become more institutionalised and more necessary as a marker for employability, doing anything remotely 'bookish' in your free time has become almost definitively 'uncool'. A shame.

> Perhaps maker spaces are born of a similar ethos

There are strains of ideas and phenomena here that are probably not decipherable to outsiders. Applying for subsidies for "study circles" would be considered as abuse of the system or even fraudulent in some circles. In other circles, receiving any subsidy from the government is considered justified and right by default.

Its effect on economic development is probably negligible (but how would you determine that?). It can rather be viewed as one of many tolerated ways of receiving money in exchange for the effort of doing the paperwork.

It's a phenomenon that looks different to different people.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#16
This gives a really distorted image of the real Sweden I know. 99% of kids in real Sweden are definitely not hanging out at these educational centers: in this massively conformist society (especially for teenagers), the kids are getting hold of beer as soon as they can, driving cars to the nearest petrol station or out-of-town car parks, and burning tire marks in the asphalt.

This sort of article is just window-dressing for what it’s really like to live in this mostly restricted and limited land, out in the boondocks.

Swedes living abroad probably actually believe this nostalgic fiction of their homeland.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#17

Unfortunately, the current conservative/nationalistic government has been trying to get it shut down. They use the guide of "tough on crime" of course, but they have been opposing money for people of lesser means for a long, long time.

What do they spend taxpayers money for instead?

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #6

> Bildung etymologically refers to shaping yourself in the image (das Bild) of God Is this really true? The liked wikipedia page does not seem to support that.

“Bild” is indeed “image”. Though one also says “bilden” to mean “generate”, “create”, or “consist of”. For instance, one might us it to say that two people “bilden” a team (i.e. make up a team).

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#20

Is there anything similar in other European countries as well?

Folkeuniversitetet ("people's university"; previously Friundervisningen - free education/free learning) and folkehøyskoler ("folk/people's high schools") in Norway.

I got my first exposure in computing in part because my dad agreed to teach computers for Folkeuniversitetet/Friundervisningen in the early 80's, but he needed to borrow one to learn to use it first...

In Norway it sprung out of students in the 1860's who wanted to make education more broadly available (Henrik Ibsen was one of the founding students, as was Bjørnstjerne Bjørson, perhaps less known outside Norway but the first Norwegian Nobel laureate in literature)

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