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A Malleable Web

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Re: A Malleable Web

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Post by culi »

ya1sec wrote: post #2

> If a website is completely malleable to the point that the data it holds can be re-shaped into something else, then you can almost see a website as an application programming interface (API). > A future where websites are combined into local frankensteins, only pulling the data it needs and combines it on a new website that does not exist. This is exactly what I want to see. I've been toying around with similar ide…

I just want a browser extension that not only lets you create little css snippets for sites you browse, but also see the most popular snippets shared by other users. Maybe an up/downvote system too

Re: A Malleable Web

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Post by rektide »

I dont know what to make of this article in particular. It's an interesting idea, and I believe the malleability aspect a lot. I think there's some very interesting suggestions here, and potential, but Im still pretty hesitant to speak for this.

But I do think it's remarkable & ultra noteworthy how vastly more plausible this suggestion is for the web than any other comparable computing system. The web has the malleable genetics to at least begin to entertain these ideas. Doing this anywhere else would require access to source, recompiling apps, or obscenely gross & mangled OCR+++ capabilities. The web attempt would be a high fidelity output, where-as all alternatives (other than being able to recompile arbitrary apps) would be incredibly funky.

The web has some really amazing pro-human superpowers, abilities ro be reshaped. The suggestions here of style transfer & api-itication are incredibly real potentials, bcause the web is so surpassing more human & rich than the typical computing world, where processes are isolated & secured compiled-down products uninterested in participating openly with the world.

Meanwhile & in-contrast, the former html5 editor is proposing a new world where all this creativity & flexibility is utterly impossible. Along with flutter/canvaskit already shipping this "new" anti-malleable bold-new-vision. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34612696

Re: A Malleable Web

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Post by contextfree »

abeppu wrote: post #5

The ungrounded breathless excitement of this piece is so grating. > It's clear that prompting as the way to interact with AI models is here to stay. We wrote about it some months ago as something that might soon happen, and it became even more true than we thought. Can we reel it in a bit? The jump from "true for some months" to "here to stay" is probably premature. >Imagine a future where your browser's AI can activ…

One thing I do think ChatGPT has been good for is reducing the "learning overhead" of making use of a lot of different APIs - this makes extensibility, scriptability, end-user programming etc. more attractive, although other problems like maintenance costs are still there. Automating the injection of arbitrary outside customizations into third-party systems not designed for it seems like a hard problem with or without LLMs, but I guess it's worth someone giving it a shot and seeing how far they get.

Re: A Malleable Web

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Post by esperent »

> you may prompt this browser to display every website in dark-mode (even those that don't support the option)

I already do that, no AI needed. Kiwi browser on Android has it built in and for desktop there's the Dark Mode Everywhere extension. Been using these for years, they're very good.

> remove news that is too negative

That would be cool, but I don't think AI would be needed for that either. Didn't we have tools that can detect the tone of a piece of text already? AI might be better at this, though.

I'd probably use it to filter out "breathlessly over optimistic articles about the latest cool thing by people that don't understand that thing". Like this one.

> Browse your bank history in the style of Spotify

So this person wants to give an AI access to their bank account? Seems like a bad idea.

However style transfer on websites that don't contain important financial or legal documents would be cool, might be possible soon, and would be a good fit for AI, so I'll give the author partial credits there.

Re: A Malleable Web

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Post by tluyben2 »

ilaksh wrote: post #6

The problem that I have with Codex (code-davinci-002) is that it sometimes just starts repeating the last X tokens infinitely. And I have tried using the parameter for frequency penalty but that seems to make it eventually "run out" of newlines sometimes. Because of that and the fact that it doesn't follow directions as well, I am trying to just use text-davinci-003 even for coding tasks. Its not as good at programmi…

Hope we jump to davinci-004 codex and just skip 3. 002 has the issues like you say which copilot does too: sometimes it just keeps repeating a comment after every enter.
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