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I heard it suggested that we honklers should take a more conciliatory approach. They fear the chuds, but in fact we have good things to offer. We can help make things better. Just listen
The End of Love
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#14I can sympathize with the author's experiences, though I find things like One recent man had a lot going for him. In fact he was the most promising prospect I’d had in some time. But then he mentioned that he got his daily coffee from Starbucks, and I found it hard to imagine dating someone who liked Starbucks coffee; or even if they liked the coffee, didn’t find Starbucks so odious and soul-diminishingly ubiquitous…
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#15This reminds me of the Mad Men quote, along the lines of “Love is invented by advertisers to sell stockings to women.” Sounds like she is given so many options she will never be happy with anyone, so she rejects everyone for minutiae.
I think it is not the author's fault that the world is, in some ways - to some people - at some times, a meatgrinder. I have tremendous sympathy for her. It is often the case in the modern world that we are promised one thing by society and receive something quite different.
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#16Clearly she puts in effort by going to dates. But she’s not developing her own psychology enough. She had to fight this tooth and nail and gone on a few more dates with him. Her issue is that she thinks she can predict what a relationship will be like with him and that Marvel and Starbucks would be too bad as an experience. (Edit: not entirely accurate but typing on phone)
More gratitude needed, more optimism needed
Dating apps aren’t the problem it’s her mindset.
Note: I go on dates 1.5 times per week myself, on average. I’m having a blast. I’m no casanova, in most cases it ends in the friendzone. I recently met one person though that might be something more and she lives on another continent. It helps that I am a digital nomad.
But yea, lots of effort but not in the right place. IMO dating needs to be strategic for certain people (like the author) and she has no strategy on being grateful and accepting flaws, or so it seems.
There was a TED talk once on a woman who hacked online dating for herself. She should do more of that.
Dating takes a lot of effort for some (me as well). Roll with it and create something beautiful. In my case I need to have a thick skin in being okay with rejection. In her case, her filters are set too tight (emotionally).
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#19Honestly sounds like a keeper. Imagine being that relaxed that you can just have a little snooze for a bit after meeting someone.
If after 100+ first dates you don't like anyone, then perhaps face the reality that it's probably you, not them?
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#20No doubt, dating is hard. But here we have someone who is literally making it harder than it must be, squandering her chances, full "Hazy Shade of Winter" style ("See what's become of me / While I looked around for my possibilities"). It's self-indulgent self-torment, and it makes Sartre look like he threw in two people too many into the famous play. It's certainly the end of love for her. Whew.