Are they even removing it from Windows 7 and other unsupported operating systems?
Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
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Re: Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
#12More correct albeit less clickbaity headline: recent builds of Microsoft Edge will uninstall any remnants of Internet Explorer from your PC and replace them with compatibility shims, so most legacy apps should continue to work as-is. On Windows Server platforms, where IE11 is still inexplicably the default experience even in the most recent 2022 editions, you can still enjoy its full functionality, until you explicit…
If people have genuine use cases (or even simply have a preferred remembered experience experience for how something complicated works like an elderly person) I see no reason why they "should" upgrade, and why instead we shouldn't at least try to provide those users a mediocre amount of support. For the average Grandma who just wants to use Hotmail and Facebook, learning Edge is actually a monumental undertaking
A genuine use case for IE11 on Windows Server platforms, which is what I was talking about, would mostly be 'masochism and a penchant for malware'.
If your average grandparent runs Windows Server, learning a new browser every now and then would be the least of their problems, IMHO.
Re: Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
#13Take edge with it, please and thank you
What's wrong with Edge. Been pleasantly surprised by it myself.
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#14This is a serious problem for us in my business as our business banking software we are forced to use by our bank in mainland China still only works with IE. I spent an hour last night ultimately inputting shady commands into my registry, to try to force IE to open instead of being hijacked by edge. When an entire industry in a country refuses to upgrade what the hell? Of course I’m pissed the bank hadn’t upgraded bu…
I'm at a US government agency and the system that processes our time and attendance still does not work with Chrome or Firefox - I think it's some kind of security certificate issue? So they tell us to use Edge to fill our our time and attendance. I click some link from our internal home page and it loads up the page in "Internet Explorer Mode," complete with the blue "e" in the address bar.
Re: Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
#15If I could forcibly remove Internet Explorer from Your PC, I would have already done so. You're welcome.
Re: Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
#16More correct albeit less clickbaity headline: recent builds of Microsoft Edge will uninstall any remnants of Internet Explorer from your PC and replace them with compatibility shims, so most legacy apps should continue to work as-is. On Windows Server platforms, where IE11 is still inexplicably the default experience even in the most recent 2022 editions, you can still enjoy its full functionality, until you explicit…
If people have genuine use cases (or even simply have a preferred remembered experience experience for how something complicated works like an elderly person) I see no reason why they "should" upgrade, and why instead we shouldn't at least try to provide those users a mediocre amount of support. For the average Grandma who just wants to use Hotmail and Facebook, learning Edge is actually a monumental undertaking
No. IE needs to be renamed "ActiveX Web App Engine" and no longer be associated with the concept of an Internet browser.
Grandma can get an old iPad for Hotmail and Facebook, which is far safer, far less needing of support and what most people are using for those types of things anyway.
Re: Microsoft is forcibly removing internet explorer from PCs
#17More correct albeit less clickbaity headline: recent builds of Microsoft Edge will uninstall any remnants of Internet Explorer from your PC and replace them with compatibility shims, so most legacy apps should continue to work as-is. On Windows Server platforms, where IE11 is still inexplicably the default experience even in the most recent 2022 editions, you can still enjoy its full functionality, until you explicit…
If people have genuine use cases (or even simply have a preferred remembered experience experience for how something complicated works like an elderly person) I see no reason why they "should" upgrade, and why instead we shouldn't at least try to provide those users a mediocre amount of support. For the average Grandma who just wants to use Hotmail and Facebook, learning Edge is actually a monumental undertaking
For the elderly, this is why:
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/p...
I'd much rather Grandma have to learn to do something slightly differently than to hear about how Grandma had her bank account information stolen by some JavaScript malware.
For those with genuine use cases (I.e. ancient software that doesn't even work with the compatibility shims) I agree that there should be some way to run IE11 and older (and with only themselves to blame if they get pwned by ignoring the risks).
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
If people have genuine use cases (or even simply have a preferred remembered experience experience for how something complicated works like an elderly person) I see no reason why they "should" upgrade, and why instead we shouldn't at least try to provide those users a mediocre amount of support. For the average Grandma who just wants to use Hotmail and Facebook, learning Edge is actually a monumental undertaking
No. IE needs to be renamed "ActiveX Web App Engine" and no longer be associated with the concept of an Internet browser. Grandma can get an old iPad for Hotmail and Facebook, which is far safer, far less needing of support and what most people are using for those types of things anyway.
> IE needs to be renamed "ActiveX Web App Engine"
Which is effectively what Edge does. It redirects all IE11 COM endpoints to WebView2, which is Chrome-based and should Work Just Fine for the foreseeable future.
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#19If "mshtml.dll" is still there, and you can still instantiate instances of it, then MSIE is still there.
Invoke-WebRequest still depends on some of the internals too probably, but who knows?
That was finally fixed, apparently in PowerShell 6.0, and now -UseBasicParsing is just a noop. Kinda crazy that it ever did this by default, especially considering PowerShell used to alias curl to Invoke-Webrequest, which could lead to surprise JavaScript execution. Definitely one of the worst gotchas in Windows PowerShell.
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#20Micro$oft seems to think that my PC is their PC and they can do whatever they like with it, without even asking.