Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout • Hacker News Board

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by deanproxy » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:08 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #7

artursapek wrote: post #4

I wish they had followed through strongly on this. There's a hard-to-miss link that lets you opt-out of having your photos censored, and if you're visiting a blacked-out photo flickr gives the anti-PIPA spiel and presents a button to "show it anyway." If they were trying to demonstrate what SOPA/PIPA would make the internet like, shouldn't they just bite the bullet and make these photo black-outs permanent for a day?…

You better not darken my photos if I'm paying for the service.

Just think how you'll feel if the SOPA or PIPA bills pass and there is no "Show my website anyway" button... 'Cause you can say that all you want, but if one of these bills pass and if the idiots deem it necessary, your content will get "darkened" regardless of how much money you paid to host it somewhere (maybe not the same way flickr is doing it, but still... to the same point).

I think everyones photos shouldn't be exempt, including the whitehouse photos! This is just a small taste of what is possible.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by rbanffy » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:08 PM UTC

My biggest complaint is that it's not easy to automate blacking out every photo of every SOPA supporter.

It is, but it involves YQL, API keys and more time than I want to dedicate.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by evan_ » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:14 PM UTC

maeon3 wrote: post #8

We are no doubt pissing off Congress to no end. I wonder what the approval rating of Congress will become after this stunt? 5%? 2%?

Yeah, those Congressmen are all trying to read Reddit and Flickr and shaking their fists at us all!

No, I don't see that happening.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by smackfu » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:24 PM UTC

deanproxy wrote: post #11

smackfu wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You better not darken my photos if I'm paying for the service.

Just think how you'll feel if the SOPA or PIPA bills pass and there is no "Show my website anyway" button... 'Cause you can say that all you want, but if one of these bills pass and if the idiots deem it necessary, your content will get "darkened" regardless of how much money you paid to host it somewhere (maybe not the same way flickr is doing it, but still... to the same point). I think everyones photos shouldn't b…

It certainly highlights one downside of using a paid-for shared service over your own self-hosted version. Flickr could be blocked due to another user, whereas my own hosting can only be blocked due to me

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by hvs » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:33 PM UTC

evan_ wrote: post #13

maeon3 wrote: post #8

We are no doubt pissing off Congress to no end. I wonder what the approval rating of Congress will become after this stunt? 5%? 2%?

Yeah, those Congressmen are all trying to read Reddit and Flickr and shaking their fists at us all! No, I don't see that happening.

I'm pretty sure he meant that all of these sites drawing attention to SOPA and PIPA are upsetting Congress. Not that they were trying to get to Reddit.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by ceejayoz » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:39 PM UTC

The wording on this was confusing enough that I thought Flickr was claiming I'd opted-in to black out my photos.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by ggchappell » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 7:57 PM UTC

All these positive comments are surprising. I find this to be a very bad idea. Flickr is a service (unlike HN) that some people depend on, and that some people pay for. So Flickr is saying that, even if I pay for their service, they might deny it to me, at the whims of other users?

Flickr is showing themselves to be untrustworthy -- and possibly in breach of contract. I would suggest not relying on them.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by brlewis » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 8:01 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #14

deanproxy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just think how you'll feel if the SOPA or PIPA bills pass and there is no "Show my website anyway" button... 'Cause you can say that all you want, but if one of these bills pass and if the idiots deem it necessary, your content will get "darkened" regardless of how much money you paid to host it somewhere (maybe not the same way flickr is doing it, but still... to the same point). I think everyones photos shouldn't b…

It certainly highlights one downside of using a paid-for shared service over your own self-hosted version. Flickr could be blocked due to another user, whereas my own hosting can only be blocked due to me

If an accuser makes a mistake and you're unreachable for 5 days, your own self-hosted version could be blocked.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by khwang » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 8:05 PM UTC

ggchappell wrote: post #17

All these positive comments are surprising. I find this to be a very bad idea. Flickr is a service (unlike HN) that some people depend on, and that some people pay for . So Flickr is saying that, even if I pay for their service, they might deny it to me, at the whims of other users? Flickr is showing themselves to be untrustworthy -- and possibly in breach of contract. I would suggest not relying on them.

Isn't there an opt-out mechanism so that your photos won't be darkened? I assume they put this in here because there are professional photographers on the site.

Re: Flickr goes creative for SOPA blackout

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Post by jarek » Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 8:09 PM UTC

maeon3 wrote: post #8

We are no doubt pissing off Congress to no end. I wonder what the approval rating of Congress will become after this stunt? 5%? 2%?

Do you really think 95% of the population either already disapproves of the Congress or has been on the internet today and ran into a darkened site and thought about the issue?