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Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

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Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

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Not worth the effort. Best to learn k8s. Inertia is a thing; and k8s has the ecosystem behind it. It’s also a vibrant project and is evolving.

Best to stay the hell away from k8s if you care about being productive. You're not Google and we'll all be better for it when everyone admits that fact.

Meh. I find k8s + istio + cert manager pretty productive.

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#12

Swarm was great. Docker/Moby should never have abandoned it. Kubernetes solves a similar class of problems to Swarm, but in a much more complex way. Sometimes that complexity helps solve problems. For many organizations, though, Swarm would have been the better option. Both Swarm and Kubernetes have their purposes. I'm sad that no option has popped up to replace Swarm in the "simple and easy container orchestration"…

what makes you think docker swarm is abandonned ? The latest docker engine release (23.0) continue support it and add new features

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#13
post #9

Not worth the effort. Best to learn k8s. Inertia is a thing; and k8s has the ecosystem behind it. It’s also a vibrant project and is evolving.

Best to stay the hell away from k8s if you care about being productive. You're not Google and we'll all be better for it when everyone admits that fact.

It's not that complicated.

It's just that people need to start planning more before they dive into k8s, there's a limit to where and when k8s makes sense in your app. And most people could get away with the more traditional setup of Frontend, App and DB Backend for a service oriented architecture and still be able to scale up into k8s when necessary.

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#14

Swarm was great. Docker/Moby should never have abandoned it. Kubernetes solves a similar class of problems to Swarm, but in a much more complex way. Sometimes that complexity helps solve problems. For many organizations, though, Swarm would have been the better option. Both Swarm and Kubernetes have their purposes. I'm sad that no option has popped up to replace Swarm in the "simple and easy container orchestration"…

I've been trying out Nomad on a home server setup, its still not as simple as Swarm and has some hard edges to learn around, but overall it hasn't been a bad experience, definitely easier than my attempts at k8s. And Nomad got basic built in service discovery in the last couple versions, which was the main thing turning me away (it used to require running Consul).

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#15
post #4

I really like the option to deploy through a git push without additional setup, and I am looking for something similar to host a bunch of containers. Does anyone here have experience with such a tool, and what is your experience regarding reliability?

You might want to check out dokku

You might want to be careful with this though because if your application is built on the same server where your productive apps consuming some of the memory it could affect performance of your deployment or even take it down.

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#16
post #4

I really like the option to deploy through a git push without additional setup, and I am looking for something similar to host a bunch of containers. Does anyone here have experience with such a tool, and what is your experience regarding reliability?

A 2nd for Dokku. It's dead simple and works on any host. Yes, it is limited to single server architecture, but for most people this shouldn't be a problem. Vertical scaling can go a long way.

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#18
post #9

Not worth the effort. Best to learn k8s. Inertia is a thing; and k8s has the ecosystem behind it. It’s also a vibrant project and is evolving.

Best to stay the hell away from k8s if you care about being productive. You're not Google and we'll all be better for it when everyone admits that fact.

Of course a startup with 1-2 or 3 engineers with nothing off the ground should probably just run a their service on a VPS and keep things super simple.

But for mature companies K8s can make a ton of sense.

Re: Swarmlet: A self-hosted, open-source Platform as a Service

#19
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best to stay the hell away from k8s if you care about being productive. You're not Google and we'll all be better for it when everyone admits that fact.

Meh. I find k8s + istio + cert manager pretty productive.

Replace Istio with Linkerd for even faster time to productive.
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