This isn't too far from me. Curious to hear thoughts from folks with deeper backgrounds in chemistry than I have (high school).
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Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding
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#12Does the NTSB look into train derailments? Would be interesting to see whether the systems engineering for trains hauling large quantities of industrial chemicals is on par with that of airlines. If not, it probably should be.
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#13I explained to my sister that this was "Bhopal[1]" level bad and she didn't believe me because "If it was that bad the news would be covering it." Sigh.
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#14Evidently this briefly hit the mass tv news cycle then went silent... This deserves wide scale attention... Pollution and toxic destruction needs to trigger a commensurate fine both for clean up and punitive damages sufficient to motivate big business to proactively avoid these events
Looks like media has been told to drop this story... Or even worse to self censor anything outside it's allowed news topic criteria
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#16Its sad, it really is. The word of the conductor vs manager on how far to push it. Ultimately management has to accept the blame. Where was the Atlas robot(s) to do to pump & hose work for the possibly exploding tanks? But, odds are the phosgene & HCL killed the animals & that is not a long term problem. If the Ohio EPA gets any the settlement money out of this it would be better off going towards a frack water processing facility to handle all the radioactive slush going into the injection wells & winter road "salt" in that area that makes the whole Australian find the pellet story quaint.
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#17A thread from Mastodon, with a few pictures: https://oldbytes.space/@swordsjew@mstdn.social/1098487070662...
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#18This isn't too far from me. Curious to hear thoughts from folks with deeper backgrounds in chemistry than I have (high school).
The two "helpful" byproducts of vinyl chloride burning like that is HF and phosgene. The wind is going to spread those rapidly.
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#19Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34772687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34759611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34676114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34762965 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34783940
“You’ve not heard about it”
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#20Frankly getting tired of hearing about how I haven't heard about it, and nobody wants me to hear about it. If you want to write about news, write about it. If you want to point out instances of news media not covering this story where they might have covered other stories go for it, cite instances. All I've been convinced of so far is some people have an axe to grind, and part of their narrative is how the media or the government doesn't want me to know about a thing I know about.
edit: please downvote my trash, the same as this article. Go find better reporting on this event to shove in front of everybody's eyeballs. (post title has since changed, see article for relevance)