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The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

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Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#11
post #5

Interesting. So how hard is it to get yeast to make certain substances normally found in lets say plants or fungi? :) All I've heard it's been done before.

I believe it is extremely dependent on what compound you are talking about, and how complicated the biosynthesis of that compound is.

A simple protein? Very easy.

A complex alkaloid, the biosynthesis of which involves many steps? Super difficult.

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#14

> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

I mean if you're worried about bioterrorism, I'm sure there are plenty of ways and means to do so outside of convenient packages like this for someone with enough motivation.

I mean with enough motivation anyone (assuming they pass a background check) can pursue a degree in biology / genetics, get a job with access to a lab, and do the thing.

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#16
> At The ODIN, we believe the future is going to be dominated by genetic engineering and consumer genetic design will be a big part of that.

At LOKI, we believe the future is going to be dominated by nature protection and consumer behaviour reengineering will be a big part of that.

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#17
post #11
post #5

Interesting. So how hard is it to get yeast to make certain substances normally found in lets say plants or fungi? :) All I've heard it's been done before.

I believe it is extremely dependent on what compound you are talking about, and how complicated the biosynthesis of that compound is. A simple protein? Very easy. A complex alkaloid, the biosynthesis of which involves many steps? Super difficult.

I wouldn't call it very easy, it's certainly routine in the lab but still can be a lot of effort. This also has to include purification, not just synthesis. And without a real lab it can get much more difficult. And many proteins are not simple, they can be rather sensitive which makes it difficult to keep them intact while producing and purifying them.

You would probably use E.Coli anyway unless you have to use yeast because of some posttranslational modifications.

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#18

> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

I mean if you're worried about bioterrorism, I'm sure there are plenty of ways and means to do so outside of convenient packages like this for someone with enough motivation. I mean with enough motivation anyone (assuming they pass a background check) can pursue a degree in biology / genetics, get a job with access to a lab, and do the thing.

It's also really difficult though.

Just like people building their own nuclear bombs hasn't been a major worry.

The real issue is the CIA, FSB, etc. doing it deliberately.

Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#19

> 70% of the world’s population was killed by NEOBOLA-26 but at least they signed the EULA. I’m making fun, but this is one class of knowledge I’m worried about. However, outlawing it doesn’t seem like a solution either.

I mean if you're worried about bioterrorism, I'm sure there are plenty of ways and means to do so outside of convenient packages like this for someone with enough motivation. I mean with enough motivation anyone (assuming they pass a background check) can pursue a degree in biology / genetics, get a job with access to a lab, and do the thing.

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Re: The Odin – DIY genetic engineering

#20
post #9

Really cool project, just worth mentioning that in some western countries ordering this stuff could lead to serious consequences and troubles with law. I live in Germany and would be afraid to get some of it.

Do they even ship outside the USA?

Nevermind all the chemicals, just shipping the plant itself internationally for that kit might be impossible.

It's a shame, the EU is so technologically backward and anti-science.

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