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‘Confirming we are cleared to land?’ Who said what at Austin
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#12FedEx crew seemed to be the adults in this situation / the most aware of the situation. Good for them.
You can't hear what they said in the cockpit without keying the mic, but I have some pretty good ideas.
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#13FedEx crew seemed to be the adults in this situation / the most aware of the situation. Good for them.
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#14I admire how pilots are able to communicate so concisely and professionally. No one swore at each other or ranted over the radio. Southwest didn’t drag their feet because they didn’t appreciate FedEx’s tone.
I suspect that higher stakes encourage politeness. A much lower stakes example than the OP: politics at a startup vs. at a big company.
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#15Wow, reading that audio transmission log was pretty intense. Someone's losing their job for sure
If the goal is to improve safety firing people is almost always the wrong response. That juvenile preoccupation with punishment only serves to create a culture where mistakes are hidden rather than understood.
It's also an extremely niche field, with a very high attrition rate in terms of training, and few people are truly capable of working in that industry. There will be retraining for certain, and a reduction in pay/rank. They certainly do not need to lose their job over a mishap, while an egregious one, it is still a trainable moment.
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#16The top of the article:
> ‘As bad as it gets without body bags.’
> Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous.
Because the planes almost collided. But the author wants to say more than that. The article covers the “how” things went wrong by analyzing the transcript. The write-up doesn’t answer the key ”why” question —- why are existing procedures and training not suitable?
Safety-critical systems (including procedures and protocols) must be designed to account for wide human variation, including mistakes and miscommunications. Let’s not waste our time pointing fingers at one person.
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#17FedEx crew seemed to be the adults in this situation / the most aware of the situation. Good for them.
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#18Somebody is not going back into an air control seat without some re-training.
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#19I admire how pilots are able to communicate so concisely and professionally. No one swore at each other or ranted over the radio. Southwest didn’t drag their feet because they didn’t appreciate FedEx’s tone. I suspect that higher stakes encourage politeness. A much lower stakes example than the OP: politics at a startup vs. at a big company.
It's not just professionalism. It's intentional and codified down to how you pronounce numbers:
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html...