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We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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> If it produces plausible articles or computer code it means the inevitable hallucinations are becoming harder to spot. How functional does the code have to be before it's no longer a hallucination? What if we are all not much more than only drawing "on the (admittedly vast) proportion of [our experiences] ingested at training time?

"How functional does the code have to be before it's no longer a hallucination?"

Well, at the point when it works but I can't understand it well enough to verify that it is correct, we may have some issues.

I know someone who has been using it to write complex regexs. To mutate the joke, to me it just sounds like now they have three problems.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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It's nice to see a little realism starting to poke through the hype. The rush for automatic bullshit generation for me is very much in the bucket of, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." As with every new technology, we should be looking at LLMs through a lens of maximizing the benefits and minimizing the harms.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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I don't get the point of this article. ChatGPT and it's ilk are not going away. They are here, now, and our friends and families will start using them very soon. I have a contrarian view from this article that ChatGPT is actually good for the mainstream audience because it will teach them to think about how trust worthy the information is coming from a machine. Most people will understand they have to take what is be…

You might be more confident than me in people's ability to discern BS. I think I am reasonably intelligent, but I get fooled all the time. Compounding the problem is that it is easier to fool someone than to tell him he has been fooled.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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I don't get the point of this article. ChatGPT and it's ilk are not going away. They are here, now, and our friends and families will start using them very soon. I have a contrarian view from this article that ChatGPT is actually good for the mainstream audience because it will teach them to think about how trust worthy the information is coming from a machine. Most people will understand they have to take what is be…

Does TikTok, Android/Google,Instagram use make the same friends and family think about privacy and data? From a cursory look at...nearly everyone...i'd say the answer is a resounding no

Privacy concerns and ChatGPT have different failure modes.

If ChatGPT fabricates a link or makes something up, there's a potential feedback mechanism. E.g. I ask ChatGPT to explain a science term, and then I get told that my understanding is incorrect in class when I use the ChatGPT definition.

It doesn't exist for every use case, but I'm hopeful everyone will be "bitten" once by ChatGPT etc., and then folks will verify its output appropriately.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does TikTok, Android/Google,Instagram use make the same friends and family think about privacy and data? From a cursory look at...nearly everyone...i'd say the answer is a resounding no

When Facebook came around we all knew it would be a disaster, and it was. When TikTok/Instagram replaced it, we knew it would be worse, and it was. Now we have LLMs that vanishingly few people in the greater public actually understand and we know they'll be used for every possible evil imaginable at scale. I'm not optimistic. See you all in the hellish afterscape.

Actually, Instagram was pretty sane for a long time. Until recently it just showed me who I followed and nothing else.

Now they're trying to complete with TikTok and I get all these crappy suggested reels and it's turning me off the platform. But for a long time it was pretty good unlike Facebook that ruined itself with its algorithmic feed.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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I don't get the point of this article. ChatGPT and it's ilk are not going away. They are here, now, and our friends and families will start using them very soon. I have a contrarian view from this article that ChatGPT is actually good for the mainstream audience because it will teach them to think about how trust worthy the information is coming from a machine. Most people will understand they have to take what is be…

Does TikTok, Android/Google,Instagram use make the same friends and family think about privacy and data? From a cursory look at...nearly everyone...i'd say the answer is a resounding no

Most people don't care about ad tracking or profiling. Nobody in real life complains about it. They get it that "free" means ad tracking.

People care very much about making good decisions so they will be careful about blindly trusting the output of a machine.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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post #3

I don't get the point of this article. ChatGPT and it's ilk are not going away. They are here, now, and our friends and families will start using them very soon. I have a contrarian view from this article that ChatGPT is actually good for the mainstream audience because it will teach them to think about how trust worthy the information is coming from a machine. Most people will understand they have to take what is be…

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