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Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

#11
Is this not what you would want? What you classify as junk might be something someone else reads. But I would want any junk filter to be based on my usage.

In fact, the suggest that they should whitelist their own domains seems to be fairly monopolistic, something Microsoft has had to deal with in the past.

This seems appropriate and right, and not any indication of anything other than things work as they should.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

#12
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Isn't that just because it's an unfathomably huge company with a very broad range of products

Sometimes I wonder if there is some kind of upside down "virtue signalling" going on. Ads in the Start Menu might not make a lot of money but investors might be impressed that Microsoft is at least trying to make a few more cents here and there. I wonder if Amazon treats employees so poorly not because this is good for business but because it helps Wall Street accept Amazon's loss-making habits (at least they aren't…

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Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

#13
I signed up for a Teams developer environment to develop and test sending email using office 365. I was able to send one email from this and the rest would just get caught in spam filters but not at the inbox level.

Maybe Microsoft has problems with people using Azure to send spam

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

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post #3

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Yes, I can't wrap my head around the fact that VS Code and Teams came out of the same company. That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".

Isn't that just because it's an unfathomably huge company with a very broad range of products

Yep, literally the size of a city and over a dozen billion-dollar ARR products. VSCode and Teams are basically different companies where it's easier to transfer to and from.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

#15

After failed Sears and Roebucks, I think Microsoft is the #2 company of all time for "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing." It's notorious that they have a hard time replicating products that competitors make look simple: look how the Steam store really works for for games, or how Dropbox works so much better than Onedrive.

has dropbox not been on life support for a good 5 years now?

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I can't wrap my head around the fact that VS Code and Teams came out of the same company. That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".

> That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu". The secret is that they aren't the same people.

They both work for and represent/is represented by the same company though.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

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post #15

After failed Sears and Roebucks, I think Microsoft is the #2 company of all time for "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing." It's notorious that they have a hard time replicating products that competitors make look simple: look how the Steam store really works for for games, or how Dropbox works so much better than Onedrive.

has dropbox not been on life support for a good 5 years now?

Might look like so for consumers, Dropbox is focusing on enterprise, like the traditional startup path of "scrappy startup for consumers -> some new features for companies -> everything is for enterprise".

If you want your stock value to increase, profits has to too, so targeting the segment the most money is exchanged makes sense. But argh so boring.

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