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The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

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Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought.

The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do now. They earned that black check on their reputation by their own actions.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

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Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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post #6

I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

>More often than not, it's the one-off act of Burning a Million Quid in 1994. Their ground-breaking music, the books, the anti-establishment statements and art ... it's almost an afterthought. The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience, and to see someone who had more than most will ever see in their lifetime literally burn it away hurts. I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do n…

> The pain of not having enough is a fundamental human experience

I'm not sure that's true.

> I thought it was deeply selfish stunt then, and still do now.

There are so many more selfish decisions made every single day that have dramatically greater negative impact on people.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I remember this and it made me think years later that if I were investing in a startup, I would prefer that after a certain threshold the founders would just take the money and set it on fire on a beach (I already have my equity) and focus just on market fit with less room for mistakes instead of building an overly corporate organization that mainly fights over how to loot it. When you have real desire on your side, cash is a distraction. I don't know if this is what they meant by it, but that is what it meant to me years later.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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It's not so much that they 'couldn't say why' as that they don't care to repeat themselves. The KLF have explained themselves at great length in their own publications, which I heartily recommend: http://klf.de/home/publication/manual-number-one-easy-way/

The Manual has been floating around online for ages! I got annoyed with the typos and OCR issues, so I cleaned it up a bit: https://github.com/pronoiac/the-manual

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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The White Room, Chill Out, and Jimmy Cauty's Space have all been on my recent rotation. They are so good. Long live The KLF!

I never understood the attraction. But then again I didn't understand what all the fuss was about over the Prodigy and "Firestarter" either. Or Underworld after they moved from rock to dance. All seemed vastly overrated to me. There is something I must be missing.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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I used to work for Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond's record label. This book looks interesting ... but I really wish the focus was on the art and the music, and not the "the guys who burnt 1 million quid" incident. One thing that the media have a tough time recognizing is the fact that Bill and Jimmy are legit experimental artists, and still love making art of all kinds. And they also happened to have some amazing musi…

Might just be me, I was of that time, but the burning £1M whilst interesting isn't really why I remember them. It's almost the least interesting thing about them. Being Scottish I was more amused by the location being an island in Scotland.

To me, they where post-acid house, but still connected to the fun and experimentation that had going for it. A bit like De La Soul they where of themselves.

Always wondered if they inspired Daft Punk who had a similar vibe.

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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The White Room, Chill Out, and Jimmy Cauty's Space have all been on my recent rotation. They are so good. Long live The KLF!

I never understood the attraction. But then again I didn't understand what all the fuss was about over the Prodigy and "Firestarter" either. Or Underworld after they moved from rock to dance. All seemed vastly overrated to me. There is something I must be missing.

>Both seemed vastly overrated to me. There is something I must be missing.

Drugs, probably.

Firestarter is an amazing track when it comes on at 3am and you've been dancing for hours. In the cold light of day, not so much.

EDM of that era was very much designed to be experienced with MDMA and the KLF in particular really needed a stadium full of people in a similar state to fully appreciate them.

All the extra Discordian stuff was just icing. Hail Eris!

Re: The KLF: Chaos, magic and the band who burned £1M

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It's been pointed out that for the state banking authority the fire did absolutely nothing. Firstly, it's rounding error noise to the economy. Secondly, even ephemeral evidence of which notes got destroyed in some circumstances would legitimate taking a bundle off the shelf and giving it to them. Money is strange. For the central bank, it exists when they say it does and not when ink hits paper at the printery.

Economics and the $1trillion note come to mind.

I think I've read comments that the K foundation people can understand that some poor scots don't appreciate what they did as a statement facing systemic poverty in Scotland.

Performance art almost always has to lie in the margins. The film isn't art, it documents a performance. The music is art, even if they deleted the catalogue. Deleting the catalogue was performative, but personally I don't think it's art.

I get the sentiment of the poster elsewhere here who points out it's boring to only talk about the money fire and Ozzie's bat, or the Gallagher brothers spitting contests or Dylan's Albert hall gig or a million other lacunae, rather than the art. So I'll stop.

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