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Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

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This is a strange read. Making assumptions about an entire platform from a few cherry picked examples. That's a very low quality post.

Having worked in both platforms I can say their conclusions are demonstrably false, if not outright biased.

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

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post #9

does ios allow web browsers to have ad blocking extensions? because that's literally the only thing that will ever matter to me about the difference between the platforms

with https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/get-extensions-iphab0...

Yes, kinda, e.g.: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-focus-privacy-browser/...

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#14

> ...on my home screen on my Pixel 4... > Things like fluid scrolling... Well, yeah. It's not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019. On my Z-Flip 4, Tusky has no problem hitting 120Hz scroll. That being said, I can't disagree with his larger point when it comes to many commercial apps - design teams are all iOS and ship designs that aren't Android-first or even Android-adj…

> not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019

I kind of disagree. If you can't make a UI run fluidly on a phone from 4 years ago, you might be doing it wrong. UIs have tight timing budgets, true, but computers are _plenty_ fast enough to keep up. Android has more overhead than iOS and it shows.

I put up with Android because I can run my own code on my own hardware. But I'm increasingly looking at iOS favorably.

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

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post #8

If it were about something older than Mastodon, this post feels like it could've been written in 2011. Anyway, I'm a happy user of Tusky. It has all the features I want, and while the UI looks dated it's not at all hard to use. I'm in fact probably happier with a Tusky-style UI than overly-animated whitespace-filled configuration-free apps made by big companies that I also use (and look "prettier"). And yes: > Androi…

> Maybe Gruber should just let people enjoy things?

How is his criticism not letting people enjoy things? You’re welcome to enjoy it and also welcome to not read John Gruber if reading him lessens your enjoyment. And he’s welcome to criticize. Maybe he enjoys criticizing. Maybe you should let John Gruber enjoy criticizing?

Some criticism is healthy. He’s criticizing dated UIs. You even agree with him. You said of the same app as him “…the UI looks dated…” Maybe this will spur some app developers to improve their UIs which will cause people to enjoy things even more.

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#16
post #9

does ios allow web browsers to have ad blocking extensions? because that's literally the only thing that will ever matter to me about the difference between the platforms

Yes, there are a slew of “content blockers” in the App Store. I use 1Blocker but plenty of people like Adguard.

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#17
post #9

does ios allow web browsers to have ad blocking extensions? because that's literally the only thing that will ever matter to me about the difference between the platforms

yes there are Safari extensions you download from the app store. I like 1Blocker: https://1blocker.com

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#18

This is a strange read. Making assumptions about an entire platform from a few cherry picked examples. That's a very low quality post. Having worked in both platforms I can say their conclusions are demonstrably false, if not outright biased.

its almost like it's an extremely apple centric blog with a ton of bias

/s

for real - i'd rather have a 'brutalist' mastadon client that cannot be removed by Google than 100 pretty mastadon clients that will be blocked permanently from the iOS store the next time a mass shooting occurs.

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#19

Meanwhile, over in iOS land, you cannot call route calls through another service, filter notifications, or run emulators. There is missing functionality, which can never be fixed, not just missing UI niceties in particular apps with (let's be honest) relatively low usage, which get fixed over time as usage increases.

Those are great examples of why iOS will never take over the entire phone market regardless of how much better a user-experience they have. Low price is another prominent "feature" that you can't get in an iPhone. Apple is interesting in that they don't try to be everything for all people. They find a niche (usually a very profitable one) where they can execute better than the competition and they don't try to eat th…

Porsche, Ferrari?

Re: Meanwhile, over in Androidtown

#20

> ...on my home screen on my Pixel 4... > Things like fluid scrolling... Well, yeah. It's not exactly apples to Apples to compare your 2022 iPhone to an Android phone from 2019. On my Z-Flip 4, Tusky has no problem hitting 120Hz scroll. That being said, I can't disagree with his larger point when it comes to many commercial apps - design teams are all iOS and ship designs that aren't Android-first or even Android-adj…

An iPhone from 2019 (which my wife has) still scrolls very smoothly. I assume he isn’t talking about refresh rate, he is talking About jerkily scrolling because the developer is making blocking calls on the main thread or re-rendering already visible elements. I also experience this on my Android test device.
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