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The Mathematical Center of the Universe (2021)

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Re: The Mathematical Center of the Universe (2021)

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If you want a deep dive on Göttingen, Constance Reid's biography of Hilbert is great. Fun fact: Hilbert was born in Königsberg, a port city on the Baltic with a famous set of 7 bridges, and as part of the WWII peace settlement between the allies, Russia got it. But not without some interest stipulations. Königsberg is now Kaliningrad, in the Kaliningrad Oblast, a geographically separated province of Russia. In order…

I think you've misremembered geography here - a straight line from "mainland" Russia to Kaliningrad cuts through Lithuania and Latvia, and to involve Poland here, you'd have to be drawing a line from Belarus. Additionally, when Kaliningrad was handed over to the Soviets, it was contiguous as part of the USSR. There was no "design" to make the Russians upset about it. Map: https://imgur.com/a/xtBJAig

The 40mi piece of land between Kaliningrad and Belarus has its own name and Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwa%C5%82ki_Gap

Re: The Mathematical Center of the Universe (2021)

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If you want a deep dive on Göttingen, Constance Reid's biography of Hilbert is great. Fun fact: Hilbert was born in Königsberg, a port city on the Baltic with a famous set of 7 bridges, and as part of the WWII peace settlement between the allies, Russia got it. But not without some interest stipulations. Königsberg is now Kaliningrad, in the Kaliningrad Oblast, a geographically separated province of Russia. In order…

1992 Russia offered Kaliningrad to both Poland and Lithuania, but neither country was interested in a region with seriously underdeveloped economy and inhabited by Russians who wouldn’t feel either Polish or Lithuanian, nor would they speak the language. > And if you look at the borders, it's pretty clear they were designed as a lock Assuming you speak about Suwalki Corridor, those borders reflect pre-war borders of…

> 1992 Russia offered Kaliningrad to both Poland and Lithuania, but neither country was interested in a region with seriously underdeveloped economy and inhabited by Russians who wouldn’t feel either Polish or Lithuanian, nor would they speak the language.

I can't speak for Poland, but based on what my Lithuanian ex told me a significant part of the motivation for the rejection might also have been that Lithuania didn't want to have to deal with a pro-Russian voting block derailing their newly won democracy

Re: The Mathematical Center of the Universe (2021)

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1992 Russia offered Kaliningrad to both Poland and Lithuania, but neither country was interested in a region with seriously underdeveloped economy and inhabited by Russians who wouldn’t feel either Polish or Lithuanian, nor would they speak the language. > And if you look at the borders, it's pretty clear they were designed as a lock Assuming you speak about Suwalki Corridor, those borders reflect pre-war borders of…

> 1992 Russia offered Kaliningrad to both Poland and Lithuania, but neither country was interested in a region with seriously underdeveloped economy and inhabited by Russians who wouldn’t feel either Polish or Lithuanian, nor would they speak the language. I can't speak for Poland, but based on what my Lithuanian ex told me a significant part of the motivation for the rejection might also have been that Lithuania did…

That would be a modern trojan horse, smart to refuse it. Even if it may have look tempting back then (wars have been fought for meaningless land grabs before), as we see now with Ukraine it would be just inviting worst kind of problems down the line

Re: The Mathematical Center of the Universe (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1992 Russia offered Kaliningrad to both Poland and Lithuania, but neither country was interested in a region with seriously underdeveloped economy and inhabited by Russians who wouldn’t feel either Polish or Lithuanian, nor would they speak the language. I can't speak for Poland, but based on what my Lithuanian ex told me a significant part of the motivation for the rejection might also have been that Lithuania did…

That would be a modern trojan horse, smart to refuse it. Even if it may have look tempting back then (wars have been fought for meaningless land grabs before), as we see now with Ukraine it would be just inviting worst kind of problems down the line

Forced migration was a part of the Soviet playbook for generations by then, so Poland and Lithuania (and I would guess most countries in the Soviet Union) were all too familiar with the tactic.
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