Does anyone have the original clip used? Curious to see it as reference for how much was altered
Hyperrealistic Deepfaked Tom Cruise in a Coffeeshop
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#12Part of me is morbidly curious about the possible chaos all this will be causing in 5 years. Maybe humanity can’t survive the mist this will bring.
It’ll be fine. Keep in mind that the world has run on handwritten signatures for a few hundred years. And anyone could say anything in a letter with no “pixels” to prove it right.
Digital media as strong evidence has been a novelty.
If anything the real thing to watch out for will be the echo of national digital ID. This would certainly solve the mild/moderate issues of deepfakes while (if done poorly) risking a serious upgrade to surveillance state/capitalism.
Re: Hyperrealistic Deepfaked Tom Cruise in a Coffeeshop
#13Part of me is morbidly curious about the possible chaos all this will be causing in 5 years. Maybe humanity can’t survive the mist this will bring.
It’ll be fine. Keep in mind that the world has run on handwritten signatures for a few hundred years. And anyone could say anything in a letter with no “pixels” to prove it right. Digital media as strong evidence has been a novelty. If anything the real thing to watch out for will be the echo of national digital ID. This would certainly solve the mild/moderate issues of deepfakes while (if done poorly) risking a seri…
Can these ai things generate a realistic signature?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your logic is impeccable, but tragically already obsolete Pretty soon the default will be everything is AI generated, even the most honest straightforward media will be AI edited/mediated. It will be too convenient, consistent, flexible and efficient to record and edit most things with AI, not to Before we asked “was that recorded in analog or digital?” Then we stopped asking.
> Before we asked “was that recorded in analog or digital?” Then we stopped asking. Very few people did, and the consequences of that are incomparable. But I'm afraid your idea of commodity/ease of use will make much of the media AI mediated (at least). And like analog/digital, nobody will notice the difference.
What do you mean by saying that the consequences of not always asking whether something was recorded in analog or digital are incomparable?
Asking that question seems relatively irrelevant to me, especially now that pretty much everything is at some point converted to digital anyway, if only for ease of distribution.
In that sense filming on film, for example, is only an aesthetic choice and a choice about the tools you want to use on set, anyway. Which is not to say that it doesn’t matter or doesn’t make a difference. But in cinemas they will still project the digitized version of that film. And people will still distribute digitized scans of their “analogue” photos online.
I mean, even “digital” cameras record decidedly analogue voltages from photosites, the difference is mostly about at which point in the chain you put the analogue digital converter.
But what difference does it make?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’ll be fine. Keep in mind that the world has run on handwritten signatures for a few hundred years. And anyone could say anything in a letter with no “pixels” to prove it right. Digital media as strong evidence has been a novelty. If anything the real thing to watch out for will be the echo of national digital ID. This would certainly solve the mild/moderate issues of deepfakes while (if done poorly) risking a seri…
Can these ai things generate a realistic signature?
Humans can generate realistic fake signatures. That‘s the point.
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#16The thing I find most interesting about people saying AI generated content is easily noticeable, is that they're always presented a question of "Do you think this is AI generated content?". Nobody consumes media with a list of questions they ask themselves for each piece of content. I expect people in the comments to explain how obviously fake it is, but barring the ridiculous scene, I'd 100% believe that was legitim…
For a year or so I've had the idea of setting up one of those "can you spot the AI generated content" tests except pitching good AI generated content against bad AI generated content, but keeping it absolutely secret that the good ones are AI generated. I suspect very close to 0 % of the test-takers would come out and say that "I'm confident all examples I saw were AI generated".
I think people would unconsciously shift their mental bar to the point where the bad stuff makes them believe the good stuff is real.
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#17Was totally Uncanny Valley for me. There's no obvious flaw (on the contrary, looks great), but there's just something off between how his shoulders, neck, and head move.
You only feel like that because you know it's a deepfake beforehand. It's a real person, an actor with a swapped face, so whatever he's doing with the movement of his shoulders neck or head is completely natural.
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#18Is there a technology we might use someday to prove the provenance of digital media? Like every video and photo has a blockchain entry or something. And any time there’s a modification, that gets recorded too. So in the future we might right click any random video and see its file history.
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#19Was totally Uncanny Valley for me. There's no obvious flaw (on the contrary, looks great), but there's just something off between how his shoulders, neck, and head move.
You only feel like that because you know it's a deepfake beforehand. It's a real person, an actor with a swapped face, so whatever he's doing with the movement of his shoulders neck or head is completely natural.
Nah, the head is too small for the body and the movement is wrong, maybe a person might take it as phone things or whatever but we have months! until this is actually perfected :)
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#20The thing I find most interesting about people saying AI generated content is easily noticeable, is that they're always presented a question of "Do you think this is AI generated content?". Nobody consumes media with a list of questions they ask themselves for each piece of content. I expect people in the comments to explain how obviously fake it is, but barring the ridiculous scene, I'd 100% believe that was legitim…
yeah, i've been fooled by context only even on non fake content. our brains are easily going along with the flow of images if it's normal enough.
that said this still has small lag and visual blur to feel uncanny