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Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by thesash » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:22 AM UTC

I am going to tirelessly promote this movie because it is one of my favorite books from when I was a kid, but even more so because I really want to see the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, get made into a movie. Speaker for the Dead is a much more mature, thought provoking book, in which a grown up Ender struggles to come to terms with his actions from the first book. Speaker won both the Hugo and the Nebula awards, and if you havent read it, you should go do so immediately.

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Fun fact: Orson Scott Card (author) had the idea for Speaker for The Dead before writing Ender's Game, and essentially wrote the first novel simply to set up the complex universe that unfolds in the sequel.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by fennecfoxen » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:24 AM UTC

Is it seriously happening? I mean, Harrison Ford name-dropping is all well and good, but I'm skeptical. The first I heard rumors of this movie happening Real Soon Nowish was on USENET.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by nl » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:28 AM UTC

thesash wrote: post #11

I am going to tirelessly promote this movie because it is one of my favorite books from when I was a kid, but even more so because I really want to see the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, get made into a movie. Speaker for the Dead is a much more mature, thought provoking book, in which a grown up Ender struggles to come to terms with his actions from the first book. Speaker won both the Hugo and the Nebula awards, and…

Speaker for The Dead is good, but the book deteriorate quite quickly after that.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by fennecfoxen » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:33 AM UTC

psweber wrote: post #8

garyrichardson wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should change your comment to "Now let's just hope they do the story justice" Ender's Game is a story that a lot of people from different walks of life can connect with. OSC is a homophobic asshole.

Ender's Game was my favorite book when I was 12, so I read a whole hell of a lot of Card's books before I knew anything about his personal beliefs. I tried so hard to think they were awesome, but everything after Ender's Game is pretty uninspired.

After a certain number of words, everything Orson Scott Card writes is at risk of devolving into the exact same plot:

1. Character glimpses a new way of life. 2. Character is misunderstood and persecuted by society. 3. Character collects followers and heads off into the middle of the wilderness to found a new society.

This is an effective summary of not only the Ender's Game series but his Homecoming saga, Alvin Maker series, Lovelock, Wyrms, Treason, and probably a few others.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by baddox » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:35 AM UTC

tsunamifury wrote: post #10

This is, potentially, the only movie I can think of that demands a 3D experience. Considering the storyline dives deeply into the tactics and strategies of conducting war in a 3D space rather than on fixed plane -- I really hope the film makers turn 3D into a useful storytelling attribute. Note: Im a pretty ardent 3D hater.

How does that fact that there is space war defeat all the arguments against 3D films? Namely, the fact that no one has ever had any problem determining depth from a "2D" projection, because parallax is not the primary source of depth perception in humans.

There are plenty of movies and television shows in 2D that feature air and space battles, and never once have I found myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I knew which of those objects was closer to me."

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by Daniel_Newby » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:35 AM UTC

garyrichardson wrote: post #6

paul-woolcock wrote: post #2

Now let's just hope they do OSC justice...

I think you should change your comment to "Now let's just hope they do the story justice" Ender's Game is a story that a lot of people from different walks of life can connect with. OSC is a homophobic asshole.

> OSC is a homophobic asshole.

He has a fear of homosexuals so intense that his mind is diseased?

Let's stick to facts, not misdirection.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by darien » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:42 AM UTC

"Set in Earth's utopian future..." If I recall correctly, the earth society and government was actually pretty dystopian. Does that mean that Hollywood is altering the story for the worst??

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by thesash » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:46 AM UTC

nl wrote: post #13

thesash wrote: post #11

I am going to tirelessly promote this movie because it is one of my favorite books from when I was a kid, but even more so because I really want to see the sequel, Speaker for the Dead, get made into a movie. Speaker for the Dead is a much more mature, thought provoking book, in which a grown up Ender struggles to come to terms with his actions from the first book. Speaker won both the Hugo and the Nebula awards, and…

Speaker for The Dead is good, but the book deteriorate quite quickly after that.

The original quartet is epic, Xenocide and Children of the Mind get a little bit off the cuff, but I really like them. Even the first few in the "Shadow" series were ok, but then quality dropped off. Now there are dozens of books set in the universe.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by tikhonj » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:46 AM UTC

baddox wrote: post #15

tsunamifury wrote: post #10

This is, potentially, the only movie I can think of that demands a 3D experience. Considering the storyline dives deeply into the tactics and strategies of conducting war in a 3D space rather than on fixed plane -- I really hope the film makers turn 3D into a useful storytelling attribute. Note: Im a pretty ardent 3D hater.

How does that fact that there is space war defeat all the arguments against 3D films? Namely, the fact that no one has ever had any problem determining depth from a "2D" projection, because parallax is not the primary source of depth perception in humans. There are plenty of movies and television shows in 2D that feature air and space battles, and never once have I found myself thinking "Gee, I really wish I knew whi…

If I remember the book correctly, the 3D parts were actually games where the participants as people move around without gravity in 3D. In this particular case--much more than for an aerial battle with airplanes or space ships--I also think 3D would help with immersion.

Re: "Ender's Game" movie happening

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Post by nilchameleons » Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 12:49 AM UTC

Daniel_Newby wrote: post #16

garyrichardson wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should change your comment to "Now let's just hope they do the story justice" Ender's Game is a story that a lot of people from different walks of life can connect with. OSC is a homophobic asshole.

> OSC is a homophobic asshole. He has a fear of homosexuals so intense that his mind is diseased? Let's stick to facts, not misdirection.

To be perfectly honest, that's a great way of describing how he feels about homosexuals (or anyone that breaks his heteronormative ideals).

More importantly, though, making an incredibly inane distinction over how much he hates a group of people misdirects readers from the fact that OSC has some incredibly harmful views on society that should not be tolerated.