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The biggest problem I see here is forwarding someone else's unknown and unencrypted content. Imagine you're running a relay on your machine, and somebody posts some CSAM, or stolen CC data, or hate speech, etc through your relay. Unlike an email client, your relay actually makes that message available to anyone. Unlike an email relay, you are not forwarding the message to someone else like a dumb pipe; there's no fin…
The biggest problem I see here is forwarding someone else's unknown and unencrypted content. Imagine you're running a relay on your machine, and somebody posts some CSAM, or stolen CC data, or hate speech, etc through your relay. Unlike an email client, your relay actually makes that message available to anyone. Unlike an email relay, you are not forwarding the message to someone else like a dumb pipe; there's no fin…
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The biggest problem I see here is forwarding someone else's unknown and unencrypted content. Imagine you're running a relay on your machine, and somebody posts some CSAM, or stolen CC data, or hate speech, etc through your relay. Unlike an email client, your relay actually makes that message available to anyone. Unlike an email relay, you are not forwarding the message to someone else like a dumb pipe; there's no fin…
There are ways to address all of these problems if and when they occur.
I think one of Nostr's biggest contributions is its culture of pragmatism and speed. Do something simple, quickly that works instead of sitting around worrying about every edge case (which is a what a lot of "decentralized" projects do). If you have no apps and no one using them, none of the problems you mention exist. If you come up with something ridiculously complicated (think some recent w3c proposals), you've built a massive barrier to contributors and to developer and user adoption.
The biggest problem I see here is forwarding someone else's unknown and unencrypted content. Imagine you're running a relay on your machine, and somebody posts some CSAM, or stolen CC data, or hate speech, etc through your relay. Unlike an email client, your relay actually makes that message available to anyone. Unlike an email relay, you are not forwarding the message to someone else like a dumb pipe; there's no fin…
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If the problem that Nostr solves is, say, posting NYT headlines, pub crawl reports, or cute cat pictures, it's fine, but most centralized tools are also fine.
If the problem which Nostr is trying to solve is being censorship-resistant and allow for dissemination of information which is actively being suppressed, relay safety considerations become important. Less safety means fewer relays, and a need of a personal connection / trust to be admitted.
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I'd appreciate a bit more detailed answer. If the problem that Nostr solves is, say, posting NYT headlines, pub crawl reports, or cute cat pictures, it's fine, but most centralized tools are also fine. If the problem which Nostr is trying to solve is being censorship-resistant and allow for dissemination of information which is actively being suppressed, relay safety considerations become important. Less safety means…
Because almost all of Nostr logic is in the clients, you can always run your own relay or pay someone to run it. There will always be someone shady that will run a relay for you if you pay enough for it. And people that follow you will still be able to see your posts.
I agree that the current state where there are hundreds of open relays and people people posting to 20 of them at a time isn't likely to be what the network looks like in the future. But that's fine - it's good enough for now.
So at least I made some money from this. :)
I'm following the project/protocol, it seems interesting. Here are some NIPS https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips
Moderation is an essential part of community management, even in darknets. Trust in what is said and what is promised as part of a transaction is what attracts and retains members of the community. Just because you can create a censorship resistant network doesn't mean you should.
Compared to the others, Nostr is optimized for innovation - it is easy to build new features on top and we'll see a lot of growth and evolution because of that. I really like that about it.
The problems I see with it right now are 1. Timestamps are easily forgeable 2. Difficult to control spam 3. Little incentive to run relays 4. Difficult to search the whole network
There are ideas on how to solve all of the problems, like POW on messages, like super relays(basically a mempool), there's a NIP for timestamps.
My guess is that it will evolve towards something that looks a lot like a blockchain. Decentralized Social is one of the few places where a blockchain actually makes sense. This will be interesting because the founding group is ideologically opposed to using a blockchain for anything but the holy BTC.