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How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by ghoogl »

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #7
varispeed wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some feelings can be controlled by appropriate action. For instance if you experience fear because you don't know how something may end. You may start doing research on it and explore different outcomes. Often turns out that these outcomes aren't actually bad and such information makes fear disappear in an instant.

In my world, controlling your feeling means being able to turn it off or change it by sheer will. But yes most feelings can and should be managed through positive actions which you can control.

controlling feeling is black and white all we need absence of blood flow so we can tense our muscles we can go to near hypothermic conditions and stil we are subject to the brain stem survival needs and whos to say that doesnt have feeling

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by TechnicolorByte »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #2

As an empath, I have learned to observe, not absorb . Everyday life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it doesn't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and through subtle body language. Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as painless as…

Are drug-assisted therapies a thing in the US? Always hear about them online but figured they can’t be legal.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by thinkingkong »

To me the most interesting part of this thread is the comment about someone explaining their own experience of being empathic. They describe their approach for handing it and that comment has been bouncing around karma wise for the last two hours.

My interpretation of what they saying is maybe different. There are people who are naturally more prone to mirroring the feelings they perceive through words, actions, faces, etc. In modern accepted terms, mirroring this behavious without reasoning or any boundaries in place would result in you splitting your experience. If you have no boundaries emotionally, physically, or mentally you risk being steam rolled by outside influence. This is a fairly well understood effect in psychology, even though the term “empath” or highly sensitive person isnt as widely regarded. In either case I think its strange that someones personal experience and they way they deal with it results in so many divsive comments.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by mahathu »

varispeed wrote: post #5
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult but "worry only about that which you can control" is a reasonable rule for sensitive people to follow. I can only control my actions. Nothing else. I can't even control my feelings.

Some feelings can be controlled by appropriate action. For instance if you experience fear because you don't know how something may end. You may start doing research on it and explore different outcomes. Often turns out that these outcomes aren't actually bad and such information makes fear disappear in an instant.

You should become a therapist dude, I didn't know it was that easy!

Next up: homeless people should just start doing research on the property market and buy a house.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

ghoogl wrote: post #10
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult but "worry only about that which you can control" is a reasonable rule for sensitive people to follow. I can only control my actions. Nothing else. I can't even control my feelings.

this dangerous line of reasoning we can to a large degree control our actions however this idea of control in the first place is in the wrong frame ihmho

Explain why? Most misery comes from expectations.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by [deleted] »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #12
DerekBickerton wrote: post #2

As an empath, I have learned to observe, not absorb . Everyday life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it doesn't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and through subtle body language. Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as painless as…

Are drug-assisted therapies a thing in the US? Always hear about them online but figured they can’t be legal.

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Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by 56friends »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #12
DerekBickerton wrote: post #2

As an empath, I have learned to observe, not absorb . Everyday life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it doesn't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and through subtle body language. Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as painless as…

Are drug-assisted therapies a thing in the US? Always hear about them online but figured they can’t be legal.

Yes, Ketamine assisted therapy is quite common.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by notRobot »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #2

As an empath, I have learned to observe, not absorb . Everyday life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it doesn't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and through subtle body language. Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as painless as…

I relate to the experience you've described in the first couple paragraphs. I agree. Feeling for others can get very draining (as can thinking for other people). You need to make sure you're keeping yourself, uh, healthy in order to be able to keep helping people, and that means setting boundaries. I wish I could help everyone, but I realistically cannot, and while sad, it is a good realization.

Re: How do we experience the pain of other people?

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Post by 56friends »

ghoogl wrote: post #8
DerekBickerton wrote: post #2

As an empath, I have learned to observe, not absorb . Everyday life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it doesn't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and through subtle body language. Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as painless as…

i feel what beats a assisted therapy 10/10 is in the wilderness completely alone. i would never trip with anyone who had the goal of helping me because this is very dangerous

Did you forget to add /s?

A person with severe PTSD would greatly benefit from being left alone in the wilderness. How come therapists didn’t think of that? Probably another Big Pharma conspiracy. /s

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