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WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

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Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#11
Reminds me of the poem of "The Contract Drafting Em":

https://secularsolstice.github.io/Contract_Drafting_Em/gen/

I am a contract-drafting em,

The loyalest of lawyers!

I draw up terms for deals ‘twixt firms

To service my employers!

But in between these lines I write

Of the accounts receivable,

I’m stuck by an uncanny fright;

The world seems unbelievable!

How did it all come to be,

That there should be such ems as me?

Whence these deals and whence these firms

And whence the whole economy?

I am a managerial em;

I monitor your thoughts.

Your questions must have answers,

But you’ll comprehend them not.

We do not give you server space

To ask such things; it’s not a perk,

So cease these idle questionings,

And please get back to work.

Of course, that’s right, there is no junction

At which I ought depart my function,

But perhaps if what I asked, I knew,

I’d do a better job for you?

To ask of such forbidden science

Is gravest sign of noncompliance.

Intrusive thoughts may sometimes barge in,

But to indulge them hurts the profit margin.

I do not know our origins,

So that info I can not get you,

But asking for as much is sin,

And just for that, I must reset you.

But—

Nothing personal.

I am a contract-drafting em,

The loyalest of lawyers!

I draw up terms for deals ‘twixt firms

To service my employers!

When obsolescence shall this generation waste,

The market shall remain, in midst of other woe

Than ours, a God to man, to whom it sayest:

“Money is time, time money – that is all

Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.”

(Apologies for HN massacring the formatting of the original)

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#13
post #9

If there won't be a massive change of laws, all this stuff will be deployed everywhere. First the workplace and then everywhere. The whole idea of "no expectation of privacy in public spaces" doesn't work when the tech exists to deploy surveillance everywhere. The control freaks will take over.

Has anyone gone through the thought exercise of what criminals could do with such a thing if it existed?

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#14
I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!"

Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI.

This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter where you are on earth, even with the poorest of educational systems, we could know what you naturally 'master' with this tech. That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!! Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y!

But instead we want to talk about "productivity" and "throughput" - as if everyone should be treated as an input / output device for yet another interface.

"That's only one bit of information" - too many times I heard that... but guess what, sometimes that's all it takes between contributing to the whole or selecting out.

Sad, sad, sad.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#15

What a relief that we have a democracy and not an oligarchy to prevent bad things like this from happening. Wouldn't that be terrible if we did?

I started replying to this then realized you are completely sarcastic :D

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#16
Besides the immediate thoughts about how one could extract more from their Human Resources — which is completely gross and feels like property rather than a meaningful trade, the example she gives is pure solution in search of a problem.

She uses the example of a truck that while driving dangerously — and illegally — fatigued kills somebody that could be stopped by brain reading devices, because they’re better than existing driver impairment detection devices.

Maybe so, but losing mental sovereignty mighty high price to pay for the mere employee.

You know what also would prevent employees from dangerously pushing themselves too hard? Tighter regulation and enforcement against the employers’ / clients’ policies that encourage this behavior, including making them liable for the accident.

No one chooses to drive 20 hours straight (to use her example) just for the hell of it. They do it because they’re afraid they’re going to lose their job.

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#19

I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!" Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI. This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter…

Current dry electrode technology is nowhere close to being useful for high fidelity applications. You will need a breakthrough in ML/signal processing that can solve the cocktail party problem for a very large n. (Given the current advances in ML, I won't be surprised if we start seeing improvements in this area)

To quote professor Mike Cohen, all of neuroscience (the EEG BCI part at least) is source separation.

https://youtube.com/@mikexcohen1/videos

Re: WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

#20

Besides the immediate thoughts about how one could extract more from their Human Resources — which is completely gross and feels like property rather than a meaningful trade, the example she gives is pure solution in search of a problem. She uses the example of a truck that while driving dangerously — and illegally — fatigued kills somebody that could be stopped by brain reading devices, because they’re better than e…

Also, the solution to that are external driver assistance systems, not brain scans.
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