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Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by weaksauce » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:16 AM UTC

wereallterrrist wrote: post #4

Every time I try to use cool Firefox features and extensions to manage privacy, I wind up frustrated and lost in thought about just how good Firefox could be, if someone with vision and benevolent dictator status took charge. 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should pr…

> 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should probably open as new tabs.

they do want to do this but they are hamstrung by money and tech debt. they are a seriously old browser with as much tech debt as you could imagine. google chrome came about only fairly recently with all the lessons learned from firefox/internet explorer/opera/et.al.. the fact that we have a multiprocess firefox was a monumental rewrite of scores of core code. I do wish firefox was better too but also it's not the largest ad revenue company in the world with a vested interest in getting ads to people as easily as possible and controlling the way that happens.

The downloads and bookmarks code is some of the oldest in the entire codebase too. that's not easy to refactor.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by krded » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:21 AM UTC

wereallterrrist wrote: post #4

Every time I try to use cool Firefox features and extensions to manage privacy, I wind up frustrated and lost in thought about just how good Firefox could be, if someone with vision and benevolent dictator status took charge. 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should pr…

Sounds like you thought this through, Firefox welcomed contributors

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by altairprime » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:23 AM UTC

adql wrote: post #9

_fat_santa wrote: post #3

Related: Multi Account Containers - Same thing as the facebook container but more generi - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... Temporary Containers - Same container concept but you can create and destroy them on the fly - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

I was wondering about it, why the hell they develop 2 different container extensions ?

Power users are fickle and they too are, I suspect, power users of Firefox too.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by wereallterrrist » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:23 AM UTC

john-radio wrote: post #10

wereallterrrist wrote: post #4

Every time I try to use cool Firefox features and extensions to manage privacy, I wind up frustrated and lost in thought about just how good Firefox could be, if someone with vision and benevolent dictator status took charge. 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should pr…

What are tree-style tabs?

I'm lazy, so I keep linking this screenshot. This is why I don't / can't leave Firefox: https://i.imgur.com/81OpEOy.png

I have so, so many tabs open. And when I need, I can reorganize in a tree structure and just collapse [other projects] tabs and leave them. Combined with "Auto Discard Tabs", I have hundreds+ of tabs open, with only a half-dozen using RAM. Works freakin' great for me, even on a laptop.

(note, this is Tree Style Tabs along with a userChrome.css hack to remove the tab bar; I'm okay with this tradeoff, normal extensions being able to hide the tab bar sounds like it would lead to issues.)

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by akubera » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:27 AM UTC

john-radio wrote: post #10

wereallterrrist wrote: post #4

Every time I try to use cool Firefox features and extensions to manage privacy, I wind up frustrated and lost in thought about just how good Firefox could be, if someone with vision and benevolent dictator status took charge. 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should pr…

What are tree-style tabs?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Makes a vertical list of your tabs in the side panel, and opening links from a page makes a node visually indented directly under that tab. Very nice for grouping tabs in a hierarchy as you descend through links on a topic.

Useful for general browsing and for sites like Hacker News: you can middle click links to interesting comments on the home page, then you can go through them one by one, opening the article (which is another tab one layer deeper), and any other links from there, all "contained" in that tree. You can collapse the tree to save space and resume at a later time. After you're done you pop the stack back to the comments and read, right click and close the whole tree when done and move on to the next article you "bookmarked".

For some workflows it's very nice.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by wereallterrrist » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:27 AM UTC

weaksauce wrote: post #11

wereallterrrist wrote: post #4

Every time I try to use cool Firefox features and extensions to manage privacy, I wind up frustrated and lost in thought about just how good Firefox could be, if someone with vision and benevolent dictator status took charge. 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should pr…

> 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should probably open as new tabs. they do want to do this but they are hamstrung by money and tech debt. they are a seriously old browser with as much tech debt as you could imagine. google chrome came about only fairly recently with…

I keep trying to give a discount for this, in some sense, but it's hard as time marches on and I've seen some of those deep improvements, while also seeing UX left on the table.

Don't get me wrong, afaict, Firefox will get decent wayland support, new fractional support, vaapi, etc, etc on Linux desktop before Chrome, and for that I can't say Thank You enough. All to say, thank you for this perspective. I wish I knew what to really do about it (I'm not qualified or blessed with the time for C++ contributions).

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by tech234a » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:34 AM UTC

benatkin wrote: post #2

The version at the end of this version page is from 2018 so perhaps a [2018] in the title would be useful. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...

Note that the version page only lists the 25 most recent versions, but the rest remain available via the API [1]. That said, this extension only has 26 versions, so it doesn't really matter for this particular case. The API also lists a creation date for the extension [2].

[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/api/v5/addons/addon/facebook-cont...

[2]: https://addons.mozilla.org/api/v5/addons/addon/facebook-cont...

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by weaksauce » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:42 AM UTC

wereallterrrist wrote: post #16

weaksauce wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. Unify all of the various settings, addons, downloads, bookmark dialogs. They should all just be tabs, with consistent style. I should be able to "nav" to the others easily, and they should probably open as new tabs. they do want to do this but they are hamstrung by money and tech debt. they are a seriously old browser with as much tech debt as you could imagine. google chrome came about only fairly recently with…

I keep trying to give a discount for this, in some sense, but it's hard as time marches on and I've seen some of those deep improvements, while also seeing UX left on the table. Don't get me wrong, afaict, Firefox will get decent wayland support, new fractional support, vaapi, etc, etc on Linux desktop before Chrome, and for that I can't say Thank You enough. All to say, thank you for this perspective. I wish I knew…

a lot of the ui that you are talking about is actually written in javascript so you can actually have an impact if you had the time. i've landed patches even though i haven't done any real c++ outside of schoolwork and playing.

Re: Facebook Container Extension

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Post by SanjayMehta » Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 3:42 AM UTC

adql wrote: post #9

_fat_santa wrote: post #3

Related: Multi Account Containers - Same thing as the facebook container but more generi - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... Temporary Containers - Same container concept but you can create and destroy them on the fly - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

I was wondering about it, why the hell they develop 2 different container extensions ?