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Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by amichail »

Natsu wrote: post #10
amichail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just imagine what it would be like to make 10 times more money from iOS development say. Wouldn't you like that?

Never. I can't even imagine wanting to sell my freedom. EDIT: I'm not sure why you would like it, either, given that the iOS games in your profile appear to be derivatives of more popular ones. If some legal department felt that you crossed the line somewhere in one of those games, you could have all your accounts suspended. That's not 10x the profit, that's 10x the risk.

I'm quite satisfied with my DropZap game in terms of originality.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by teamonkey »

amichail wrote: post #8
geuis wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that it won't. An almost insignificantly small industry has an outrageous amount of influence compared to the industries that actually make real money and jobs in the US.

Just imagine what it would be like to make 10 times more money from iOS development say. Wouldn't you like that?

I just wonder why you think SOPA will increase your revenue by 10 times? That's a figure which is pulled out of nowhere.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by nextparadigms »

nopal wrote: post #4

It's not mentioned in the article, but CNN has a dog in this fight with their iReport service. They receive and post a lot of user-generated content nowadays.

That probably explains it. I was wondering why all of the sudden a mainstream media company would start talking about it, as it's generally in all the MSM's benefit to let SOPA pass and kill all their Internet competitors, and even use it as a tool for political censorship under the disguise of "copyright infringement".

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by Natsu »

amichail wrote: post #11
Natsu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never. I can't even imagine wanting to sell my freedom. EDIT: I'm not sure why you would like it, either, given that the iOS games in your profile appear to be derivatives of more popular ones. If some legal department felt that you crossed the line somewhere in one of those games, you could have all your accounts suspended. That's not 10x the profit, that's 10x the risk.

I'm quite satisfied with my DropZap game in terms of originality.

I personally don't have any problem with your games, but you and I aren't the people who have to be satisfied. Your competitor's legal departments are.

There's plenty of precedent for overzealous legal departments sending out baseless legal threats already. Under SOPA, they get to shut you down right away, then leave you to clean up the resulting mess.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by amichail »

teamonkey wrote: post #12
amichail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just imagine what it would be like to make 10 times more money from iOS development say. Wouldn't you like that?

I just wonder why you think SOPA will increase your revenue by 10 times? That's a figure which is pulled out of nowhere.

I actually don't know the piracy rates of my apps.

Some reported rates:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/another-developer-reports-...

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25809

http://247wallst.com/2010/01/13/apple-app-store-has-lost-450...

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by Natsu »

binarycrusader wrote: post #9
amichail wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just imagine what it would be like to make 10 times more money from iOS development say. Wouldn't you like that?

"Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here." I like hypothetical money trees just as much as the next person but on what do you base these hypothetical scenarios?

Those hypothetical money trees probably seem real to SOPA supporters. Among other things, this article explores how some wild guesses about hypothetical job losses from a 1986 speech keep getting cited as facts by Congress:

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/how-copyright-industries-con-...

Or, if you prefer, there's also an independent review of their report:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120104/04545217274/cato-i...

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by burgerbrain »

amichail wrote: post #15
teamonkey wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wonder why you think SOPA will increase your revenue by 10 times? That's a figure which is pulled out of nowhere.

I actually don't know the piracy rates of my apps. Some reported rates: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/another-developer-reports-... http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25809 http://247wallst.com/2010/01/13/apple-app-store-has-lost-450...

You make the fatal but tragically common mistake of assuming that if somebody thinks a program is worth $0.00, they would think it would also be worth $[however much it legally costs] if getting it for free was not an option.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by teamonkey »

amichail wrote: post #15
teamonkey wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wonder why you think SOPA will increase your revenue by 10 times? That's a figure which is pulled out of nowhere.

I actually don't know the piracy rates of my apps. Some reported rates: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/another-developer-reports-... http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25809 http://247wallst.com/2010/01/13/apple-app-store-has-lost-450...

I see what you're getting at, and I think that those piracy rates are at best accurate and at worst much higher. And as a game dev I would like to see more people paying for the software I work on.

However, there's absolutely no reason to suspect that SOPA will make a significant dent in piracy rates. On the contrary, as well as making little piracy impact, the industry will become increasingly constrained and there will be greater risk for developers.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by jcitme »

amichail wrote: post #15
teamonkey wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wonder why you think SOPA will increase your revenue by 10 times? That's a figure which is pulled out of nowhere.

I actually don't know the piracy rates of my apps. Some reported rates: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/27/another-developer-reports-... http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25809 http://247wallst.com/2010/01/13/apple-app-store-has-lost-450...

I'll pirate your app right now. That doesn't mean that you lost any revenue, since I wouldn't have bought it if the pirated version wasn't available.

Pirated copy =/= lost revenue.

Re: CNN covers SOPA on homepage

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Post by jscore »

nopal wrote: post #4

It's not mentioned in the article, but CNN has a dog in this fight with their iReport service. They receive and post a lot of user-generated content nowadays.

They are also a big company that donates to the government so I doubt they're expecting serious ramifications from this bill's passage to their bottom line.
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