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England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.

I'm pretty sure all fiber is bi-directional and achieving gigabit without fiber seems silly.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Price of new houses just went up

Not particularly, there's very little justification for running copper to new houses given we're in a nationwide rollout of fibre and there's a big cost saving to moving entirely to fibre.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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How i understand is is Gigabit is two parts: the first part is your home, router, etc supporting the connection speeds. The other is the infrastructure to deliver the gigabit to your home. I can see a regulation that mandates that you wire any new residences up so they can support gigabit, but how is this going to work if the municipality / ISP does not offer it? Not sure about what Gigabit rollout in the UK looks li…

Simple: let's say your house is fitted with a gigabit connection but the infrastructure sill isn't there. this means that when the infrastructure comes you will have to do zero work on your house. no changing of wires, no breaking the walls, no wasting everyone's time.

I don't have a 10Gb/s switch at home, but I still use Cat6 so when I upgrade I won't have to crawl around my house to change everything

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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post #9

Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.

I'm pretty sure all fiber is bi-directional and achieving gigabit without fiber seems silly.

Gigabit over DOCSIS won't be symmetrical any time soon, but it's still gigabit internet.

Not all homes are hooked up to fiber, sadly, although especially in new homes you'd really hope they'll be.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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post #9

Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.

Is paying for your own fiber install common? I'm in a mid-90's home in the US and AT&T just recently decided they wanted to enter our market with Fiber and will install free of charge with no contract to whoever wants to switch. Certainly no easy task, but I understand that homes/infrastructure outside of the US can also be significantly older.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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post #9

Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.

Is paying for your own fiber install common? I'm in a mid-90's home in the US and AT&T just recently decided they wanted to enter our market with Fiber and will install free of charge with no contract to whoever wants to switch. Certainly no easy task, but I understand that homes/infrastructure outside of the US can also be significantly older.

Enterprise-grade leased lines typically make you pay at least part of the install cost.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Instead of what?

Everything comes instead of something else. Whatever effort and resources are spent adding gigabit to new homes will mean fewer homes, less food, shoes, medicine, natural gas, cars or whatever.

Many people will be celebrating faster internet speeds for those who purchase these new homes, but it's hard to see what goes missing when it's a little here and there from across the economy.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Glad they're trying something but this seems silly compared to "we're going to start a public works project where anyone in England can request their home or apartment be upgraded to be 1G capable." This law feels like it was written by someone who wanted to do anything except pay for it. The queue would be massive but that's UK tradition.

> This law feels like it was written by someone who wanted to do anything except pay for it.

This sentences feels like it was written to defend companies that want to reap profits from massively profitable areas, but systematically avoid investing in upgrading service in less profitable areas.

Where self-regulation falls short of serving the public interest, government regulation kicks in. Well done UK!

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