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ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

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Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#12
ChatGPT, in its current generation, is best compared to an incompetent manager (think The Office). It gives eloquent answers with a high degree of confidence, however, the answers are sometimes comically wrong.

I do love ChatGPT though and would love for it to be integrated in Word or Google Docs. It is great at producing a first draft for performance reviews, pay rise letters, writing letters of complaints or challenging a parking fine.

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#14
Yeh so this and other examples for me demonstrate that ChatGPT has no logic per se. These examples demonstrate that it is not analysing your question and calculating the answer, instead it is approximating and answer based on a corpus of questions. So in essence it doesn't actually yet understand what you are asking it.

I'd be intrigued to see some kind of amalgamation of an AI tool like ChatGPT with a logic tool (say Wolfram Alpha-style). That would combat a lot of the ways folks have found to break this.

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#15
post #11

Text is broken into something called "tokens" [0] for GPT. It doesn't work on individual characters. That explains why it always fails these character counting questions. [0]: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-...

>it always fails

It usually is able to get the answer within 1 character of the actual answer.

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#16
post #7

ChatGPT is assertive, authoritative, and even goes on to lie to justify its answers and "be right". It's a gasslighting machine. Here's an example I posted here a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33852236

These ChatAI's are just "generally agreeable".

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

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post #11

Text is broken into something called "tokens" [0] for GPT. It doesn't work on individual characters. That explains why it always fails these character counting questions. [0]: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-...

Interestingly both “halves” of the word as it split it have the same number of tokens

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#19
I can't help but notice some similarities between GPT and fully self driving vehicles. Both technologies have come a long way and are quite impressive, but not quite there to actually be able to replace humans, and getting the last 10% of edge cases to work seems to require a monumental effort still.

Re: ChatGPT: How many letters has the string “djsjcnnrjfkalcr”?

#20
This is an artifact of an implementation-specific trick that trades performance at character-level tasks for performance at everything else. It does not reflect anything inherent about this type of model's capabilities: https://www.gwern.net/GPT-3#bpes

GPT-3 does not see individual characters. It sees "djsjcnnrjfkalcr" chunked as [d, js, jc, nn, r, j, f, k, al, cr]. You can see for yourself here: https://beta.openai.com/tokenizer.

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