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Why I Won't Hire You

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Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by zalew »

csomar wrote: post #6

Why I Won't Work For You: Because you are a dick. Now who are you? What are you going to give me in return? Why should I tell you that I love my job and my career. Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that. The hiring should be a lot simpler: - You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I h…

Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that.

These 'where do you see yourself in 5 years' questions sound like straight from a 'HR for dummies' book. I would really appreciate if an interviewer reading this post explained me what such cliches are trying to test, other than BS skills. Cliche question => cliche response.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by leftnode »

What a completely horrible way to interview and speak to people.

No career plans or vision Why would this matter to the interviewer? I just can't get over how ridiculous of an answer he provides. Why would he care what my career plans and vision (whatever that is) are? Who can honestly plot out the next 10 years of their life? Very few, and I'd be wary of anyone who claims they could.

I'm not surprised this person is not finding the right candidates for his company, but I think he has no clue why.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by GiraffeNecktie »

csomar wrote: post #6

Why I Won't Work For You: Because you are a dick. Now who are you? What are you going to give me in return? Why should I tell you that I love my job and my career. Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that. The hiring should be a lot simpler: - You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I h…

It's funny that I had the reverse response. Your post makes you sound like a dick and he sounds like someone who is being totally reasonable. He's looking for excellent people that will fit in well with his team (i.e. won't waste time, has sufficient energy and passion, thinks clearly, communicates well and doesn't sit around loathing their career). Technical skills are important, but putting together a successful team takes more than that. And even if it didn't, it only makes sense, given a pile of resumes with roughly equivalent skills, to filter out the people you don't like to be around. Sucks if you need the job and you're not that type of person, but that's life.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by anons2011 »

llambda wrote: post #2

tl;dr - He won't hire you because he has a hyper-focus on the process of the interview rather than the process of finding a suitable individual for the opening. His attitude can be summed up in this one line, "Most people looking for jobs don't deserve them."

tl;dr indeed! Although he does sound like a bit of a dick though.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by code-dog »

As someone who has done the interviewing thing, I can see where this article is coming from. I don't really buy into all of it though. All this stuff about being a great communicator. That is cool but not always required. I have spent a lot of time working with amazing people who are crap communicators and crap people who are great communicators.

But - I am sure a lot of people interviewing use indicators like these so it it worth knowing about them.

Finally, on the CV thing. This is a hard issue because agents look for buzz words. If you've done a lot of stuff you need to write a lot to get all the buzz words in. That is the only way the agent will forward our CV. Then - you cannot tailor the CV to the job because you did not submit one for that job, you submitted one for buzz words.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by benjaminwootton »

csomar wrote: post #6

Why I Won't Work For You: Because you are a dick. Now who are you? What are you going to give me in return? Why should I tell you that I love my job and my career. Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that. The hiring should be a lot simpler: - You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I h…

- You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I have the skills for.

If you were hiring someone to dig a hole for you, this may be true.

But software is a team sport and you do need an element of interviewing for personality, goals, and attitude as well as skills and aptitude.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by andreadallera »

GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #13
csomar wrote: post #6

Why I Won't Work For You: Because you are a dick. Now who are you? What are you going to give me in return? Why should I tell you that I love my job and my career. Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that. The hiring should be a lot simpler: - You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I h…

It's funny that I had the reverse response. Your post makes you sound like a dick and he sounds like someone who is being totally reasonable. He's looking for excellent people that will fit in well with his team (i.e. won't waste time, has sufficient energy and passion, thinks clearly, communicates well and doesn't sit around loathing their career). Technical skills are important, but putting together a successful te…

csomar's response is, IMHO, the right reaction to the blog post author's rambling.

What I've found out by experience is that usually recruiters with such restricting requirements aren't ready to back up said requests with the appropriate money. He wants top notch, highly motivated talent. How much is he willing to pay? That's definitely a part of the equation but he's not even mentioning it. If he offers 200-300% the market price then he's right to ask that much skill and dedication, otherwise his pretenses are absolutely unjustified.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by csomar »

GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #13
csomar wrote: post #6

Why I Won't Work For You: Because you are a dick. Now who are you? What are you going to give me in return? Why should I tell you that I love my job and my career. Why should I tell you about my vision and plans? What are you really looking for in that. The hiring should be a lot simpler: - You have a problem. You need someone with the right skills, and hire him. - I have a problem (need money). I pick a job that I h…

It's funny that I had the reverse response. Your post makes you sound like a dick and he sounds like someone who is being totally reasonable. He's looking for excellent people that will fit in well with his team (i.e. won't waste time, has sufficient energy and passion, thinks clearly, communicates well and doesn't sit around loathing their career). Technical skills are important, but putting together a successful te…

Then talk to me about the advantages of working for you. If I'm to work for you for the money, then state that you are offering $200K/year. If I'm interested in health care, then you should have some health insurance package. A good one probably.

I'm skilled, you can see that from the projects I did, worked on, my blog, Github and source code.

Then hire me for a couple of months and see how I fit in the team. Certainly, you should apply your hiring skills to figure out if I'll be a right fit, otherwise you'll waste lots of time hiring/firing/figuring.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by x3c »

The thing about this interview process is that you'll lose those candidates who have potential and can thrive in correct environment but:

a) Currently work in a job that they don't really like and, hence, are looking to switch (because they cannot come up with a satisfactory answer for: "You can’t tell me why you like your current job")

Also, since they don't know much about your company besides second-hand information, they cant answer: "why you think this job will give you the same passion". Interview is a conversation, you'll have to tell them what your company culture is and how it can benefit potential employees.

b) Candidates who are fresh out of college / don't have much experience.

c) Candidates who are probably good enough for your job but aren't good enough to pass the, very high bar, you've set up for them.

So it depends on the profile for which you're hiring and the prerequisites you are looking for. I personally won't mind if an interviewee can't answer most of these questions but can do the job I'm giving and has done something simiiar to it in the past with reasonable success and is a good cultural fit in my organisation based on what I can deduce during the interview.

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