I agree with the moderator, AI will push artists to their limits and force them to become creative which is the most important skill of an artist. Technicality isn't enough nowadays, doesn't matter if you can paint like Raphael, you need to be creative like Picasso or Dali.
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#12Reddit's weird setup where essentially random people who were first "own" entire categories (= subreddits) of discussion is totally absurd.
What do you think would be a better model? I have a hard time imagining one.
It doesn't seem all that different to me than whoever is first to claim a company name, a domain name, or when we go back further in time, land.
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#13Reddit's weird setup where essentially random people who were first "own" entire categories (= subreddits) of discussion is totally absurd.
It's not absurd, it's reddit's killer feature and the primary reason that reddit is as big as it is.
I've had my fair share of terrible moderators on Reddit. Even on major / big name subreddits.
There's not much to do aside from start a rival subreddit (with a less popular name), or just give up on Reddit entirely and go elsewhere.
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#14The only real news here is that Reddit mods are power mad tyrants, which is nothing new at all. AI generated art has just given them newer, funnier ways to be in the wrong.
"Power" moderators, that is people who moderate a large number of subreddits, are untenable. It is not possible to effectively or fairly moderate dozens of communities, even if you were to spend all your waking moments doing so. This is, in part, why it's so common for popular submissions to be locked or deleted because "y'all can't behave".
The people that do so are largely doing it for their own self-gain (e.g., self-promotion) or because it makes them feel important. I had a very low stress job for a few years and ended up as a moderator for over a dozen large subreddits, including a few defaults. Socializing with Reddit's prominent moderators was enlightening.
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#15The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.
"A good artist copy, a better artist steal". AI is influenced by artists work like artists are influenced by artists.
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#16The only real news here is that Reddit mods are power mad tyrants, which is nothing new at all. AI generated art has just given them newer, funnier ways to be in the wrong.
proof: I was a mod of a small hobby subreddit for a while, and I'm an idiot.
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#17I agree with the moderator, AI will push artists to their limits and force them to become creative which is the most important skill of an artist. Technicality isn't enough nowadays, doesn't matter if you can paint like Raphael, you need to be creative like Picasso or Dali.
> Technicality isn't enough nowadays
When was it ever like that for artists? Most complex music to perform doesn't mean it's the "best", neither is it like that for art.
As an example from visual art, abstract art is sometimes very simple, yet have a profound impact on people, and it was never about being "technical", "complex" or "hard to reproduce".
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#18What does it even matter how art is created?
It's the same with banning ChatGPT from StackOverflow: Who cares and who notices? Art is either evoking some feeling or not and it's different for everybody. An answer on SO is either helpful or not. Who cares how it was written? ChatGPT can easily say something more helpful than me, stable diffusion can easily make something I'd rather have on my wall than Da Vinci's Mona Lisa (or anything more along my preferences). Why do we care so much? What's "real art" anyway?
I always like a colleague's mousepad, it said: "Is this art or can we throw this out?" Always makes me smile.
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It's not absurd, it's reddit's killer feature and the primary reason that reddit is as big as it is.
Sorry, I am not familiar with reddit’s model. What is “ownership” in this case? Total private tyranny, with delegation of authority? Does it transition to collectively and more democratically managing the channel, as stackexchsnge does?
There is no collective or democratic management, unless the tyrannical overlords choose to allow it. "Total private tyranny, with delegation of authority" is correct. What it leaves out is that anybody else can make a competing subreddit, dedicated to the same issue, where they have control.
The only thing getting there first does is prime realestate in the namespace and network effects of having an existing community.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not absurd, it's reddit's killer feature and the primary reason that reddit is as big as it is.
Sorry, I am not familiar with reddit’s model. What is “ownership” in this case? Total private tyranny, with delegation of authority? Does it transition to collectively and more democratically managing the channel, as stackexchsnge does?
Yes, it's total private tyranny if the person who started the subreddit chooses to keep it that way. But if Reddit (the company) doesn't like the way you're running your sub, they can and will replace the people in charge.