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I will remember Creative as the company that purchased two of the greatest music synthesizer companies, E-Mu and Ensoniq, merged them, and then destroyed them.

I will remember Creative as the company that issued repeated lawsuits against Aureal Semiconductor (losing repeatedly), then bought their assets when Aureal was forced to declare bankruptcy due to legal fees.

> losing repeatedly

> bankruptcy due to legal fees.

Don't the legal fees get paid by the losing side?

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I will remember Creative as the company that purchased two of the greatest music synthesizer companies, E-Mu and Ensoniq, merged them, and then destroyed them.

I will remember Creative as the company that issued repeated lawsuits against Aureal Semiconductor (losing repeatedly), then bought their assets when Aureal was forced to declare bankruptcy due to legal fees.

Yup. And basically the day the bankruptcy acquisition closed they nuked the support website and took the drivers offline.

Creative is an incredibly scummy company. I don't know anything about the founder but generally have found the fish rots from the head on issues like this.

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Known in the US as Creative Labs. Mercy, those Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live PCI cards (CT4830) were like the default go-to option for everyone for years & years. Every system build got one! They were reasonably priced & considered pretty decent! Motherboards had pretty bad onboard sound if any at all, up until an Nvidia chipset started sometimes having some good implementations (the nForce chipset with integrated…

The one thing about PC sound cards include SBL was in comparison to other cards they were super noisy. The hiss that came off them was much more noticeable. At the time, every Mac was much more quiet than PCs. There were a couple of PC sound cards that were much more quiet (Turtle Beach cards come to mind), but the typical Creative card sounded like it had an air leak.

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I will remember Creative as the company that purchased two of the greatest music synthesizer companies, E-Mu and Ensoniq, merged them, and then destroyed them.

Was E-Mu the brand with the unicorn logo? I knew a few musicians that had racks of 1RU pieces of gear. I remember the E-Mu name and the unicorn logo, and in my brain they are on the same gear. But in my brain, things get fuzzy when reaching back further than 15 minutes ago let alone 30 years.

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I will remember Creative as the company that purchased two of the greatest music synthesizer companies, E-Mu and Ensoniq, merged them, and then destroyed them.

This. Creative had scale and ability to reduce costs for both E-MU and Ensoniq. These companies had extensive silicon design and fab experience (Dave Rossum is still at it in fact) that could have been leveraged and some truly innovative products could have been made. Still computer software was rapidly eating the Audio hardware market and things like samplers started to seem both redundant and one and the same thing…

The guy is so good. Amazing.

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I will remember Creative as the company that purchased two of the greatest music synthesizer companies, E-Mu and Ensoniq, merged them, and then destroyed them.

Was E-Mu the brand with the unicorn logo? I knew a few musicians that had racks of 1RU pieces of gear. I remember the E-Mu name and the unicorn logo, and in my brain they are on the same gear. But in my brain, things get fuzzy when reaching back further than 15 minutes ago let alone 30 years.

That was probably MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn) which is based in Massachusetts if memory serves. I just upgraded to a MOTU interface and it's good kit.

Creative apparently did some less-than-desirable things in their heyday but I was a fanboy of theirs because of their Zen and Nomad series of MP3 players. They were arguably superior to the iPod line in virtually every respect but got no recognition, i.e. a perfect combo for the technically-inclined hipster cynic that I was in my teenage years :-P

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will remember Creative as the company that issued repeated lawsuits against Aureal Semiconductor (losing repeatedly), then bought their assets when Aureal was forced to declare bankruptcy due to legal fees.

> losing repeatedly > bankruptcy due to legal fees. Don't the legal fees get paid by the losing side?

Not in "the American system". Litigation is a rich person's game, and often used to grind down competitors: or just grift a lucrative settlement.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will remember Creative as the company that issued repeated lawsuits against Aureal Semiconductor (losing repeatedly), then bought their assets when Aureal was forced to declare bankruptcy due to legal fees.

> losing repeatedly > bankruptcy due to legal fees. Don't the legal fees get paid by the losing side?

In the American legal system, each party pays its own legal fees unless there is (1) a statute that specifies fee-shifting or (2) a contract between the parties that specifies fee-shifting.

The reasoning behind this is that to require the loser to pay all fees would discourage "good" lawsuits. (e.g., an individual with a decent case against a big company, may be discouraged from filing because of the potentially catastrophic costs if he doesn't win.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was E-Mu the brand with the unicorn logo? I knew a few musicians that had racks of 1RU pieces of gear. I remember the E-Mu name and the unicorn logo, and in my brain they are on the same gear. But in my brain, things get fuzzy when reaching back further than 15 minutes ago let alone 30 years.

That was probably MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn) which is based in Massachusetts if memory serves. I just upgraded to a MOTU interface and it's good kit. Creative apparently did some less-than-desirable things in their heyday but I was a fanboy of theirs because of their Zen and Nomad series of MP3 players. They were arguably superior to the iPod line in virtually every respect but got no recognition, i.e. a perfect comb…

Doh! Of course! MOTU is where I was confused. Like I said, things get fuzzy.

I remember the Nomads being the defacto standard device, until iPod. I was always surprised that they stuck around for as long and new versions as it did.

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