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Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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This was built by a solar company, not the author directly, but the actual parts making up this system are pretty damned cheap. ~$4200 in panels + $2000 inverter plus additional hardware (mounting, cables, fasteners). Then labor costs. Net output was 10,894 kWh, inline with a 20 year estimate of 193,545 kWh. If we just divide $6200/193545kWh (ignoring additional costs!!) that'd be $0.032/kWh. One other data-point: da…

What are you using to estimate the raw panel cost?

Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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I am surprised at these power bills, at least in my area the implied "savings" are 2-3 times what my bill is on any given month. Huge house maybe?

That was not takeaway as well -this person seemingly lives on an estate. I do not think most roofs even have the space for 21 panels.

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Interesting to see a post about this from someone else who I'm assuming is in a northern climate (they say New England). One of my biggest questions about solar is, what happens when it snows? Do you have to get up on the roof and clean them off by hand? Or do they have built-in defrosters?

> One of my biggest questions about solar is, what happens when it snows? Do you have to get up on the roof and clean them off by hand? Or do they have built-in defrosters? Nothing. In northern climates rooftops usually have more of a pitch to them so snow doesn't accumulate (because you don't want the roof to collapse). The panels, because they are black, will generally collect enough heat to melt the snow in a day…

>The panels, because they are black

Doesn't seem like that would matter once covered by a few inches of snow. But otherwise your points seem solid.

Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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Interesting to see a post about this from someone else who I'm assuming is in a northern climate (they say New England). One of my biggest questions about solar is, what happens when it snows? Do you have to get up on the roof and clean them off by hand? Or do they have built-in defrosters?

You don't produce much in the winter anyway, you can brush it off the panels with an extendable broom but it will naturally melt and slide off. Unless you have snow cover all winter you'd likely spend more on the extendable broom than you'd produce from the panels.

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My parents had panels installed on their house, it is a large single story house in Austin, Texas, which is pretty ideal (more surface area for panels, less volume inside vs two story). No trees in the way either. They haven't had to pay anything for electricity yet. And that is with an EV charging in the garage.

We have panels on our roof, a two story house, also in Austin Texas, not so lucky as my parents. With the area maxed out we still have to pay for about 25% of the electricity we use.

Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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> The unsubsidized all-in price for buying and installing the panels was $25,525.43... after counting this $6,636.61 tax credit, the subsidized price was $18,888.82 Looks like a 7 year return on investment after subsidies, 10 years without.

Sounds great to me. Especially considering you aren't paying any taxes on your returns when they come in the form of deferred costs. That's equivalent to a pre-tax return in the mid-teens. You won't find that in most asset classes these days, and definitely not with the risk profile of solar.

Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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This was built by a solar company, not the author directly, but the actual parts making up this system are pretty damned cheap. ~$4200 in panels + $2000 inverter plus additional hardware (mounting, cables, fasteners). Then labor costs. Net output was 10,894 kWh, inline with a 20 year estimate of 193,545 kWh. If we just divide $6200/193545kWh (ignoring additional costs!!) that'd be $0.032/kWh. One other data-point: da…

What are you using to estimate the raw panel cost?

The author linked the parts. The link to the Longi LR4-60HPH-360M panels shows a $200 price (x 21). I had to google for the inverter, a Solar Edge SE6000H-USS3, to find a price ($2000 x 1).

> I ended up getting a 7.56 kW solar panel system consisting of 21 LONGi panels[1] and 1 Solar Edge inverter[2].

[1] https://www.solaris-shop.com/longi-solar-lr4-60hph-360m-360w...

[2] http://www.solardesigntool.com/components/distributeddcinver...

Re: Solar panels reduced my electric bill in 2022

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Interesting to see a post about this from someone else who I'm assuming is in a northern climate (they say New England). One of my biggest questions about solar is, what happens when it snows? Do you have to get up on the roof and clean them off by hand? Or do they have built-in defrosters?

Usually if any significant amount of the panel is exposed, they will start to heat up from the sun and defrost the rest. Its a significant reduction in performance, of course, but still worthwhile if utility power is expensive.

The actual performance of the cells increases as they get colder. The attenuation due to ice or snow will, of course, reduce power generated.
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