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English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

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Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

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I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.

What if you actually want to literally translate "There's mud all over the shop"?

And this is where I found translation services to fall apart.

I worry a lot of language getting will be lost in an effort to reduce it to something a machine can handle.

Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you actually want to literally translate "There's mud all over the shop"?

And this is where I found translation services to fall apart. I worry a lot of language getting will be lost in an effort to reduce it to something a machine can handle.

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Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

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I think this highlights some differences between now and the 19th century.

Global communication and travel, to say nothing of media consumption, is much easier today. Many more Portuguese or Brazilian people have easy access to English. But back then, someone who didn't even speak English could publish this phrase book and appear credible.

Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

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What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.

I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.

Google search can't seem to find this phrase. What does it mean?

Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

#17

Heaven forbid I disagree with Mark Twain, but star war: backstroke of the west[0] is another great example in this uh genre. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20170115091456/http://winterson....

Since you mentioned it, I have to bring up the fact that fans of this, er, masterpiece made a (shockingly?) high quality audio dub over the entirety of the original with the dumped subtitles: https://youtu.be/XziLNeFm1ok

This might legitimately be one of my favorite pieces of entertainment in existence, if only because of the delivery and emotion behind nonsense idiom mistranslations. It's glorious.

Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

#18
post #6

What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.

I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.

Is that your own idiom? Literally never heard it before and I collect idioms.

Re: English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

#19
post #6

What's remarkable is how good machine translation (DeepL, Google Translate) has become at handling idiomatic expressions in recent years. Still not perfect, of course (there's still the odd clanger), but anyone trying to do the same task today would fare considerably better.

I disagree. I can't speak for Deepl, but Google remains terrible at idioms. Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try.

>Give the phrase "There's mud all over the shop." a try. //

In which dialect of English is that an idiomatic expression? Never heard it before (en-gb native). What's the interpreted meaning??

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