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Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#11

Gosh, you can tell he really hates the Flipper.

I’ve seen him on the Discord server for Unleashed firmware. I don’t think he hates it?

Maybe the commenter was just sarcastic? My 10yo daughter always tells me: when you like something, you remark it so much, dad. I just think it is important to celebrate other people accomplishments: it has good effects on the world.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#12
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen him on the Discord server for Unleashed firmware. I don’t think he hates it?

Maybe the commenter was just sarcastic? My 10yo daughter always tells me: when you like something, you remark it so much, dad. I just think it is important to celebrate other people accomplishments: it has good effects on the world.

Ah yeah, probably. Misread it. I didn’t sleep that well. :)

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the commenter was just sarcastic? My 10yo daughter always tells me: when you like something, you remark it so much, dad. I just think it is important to celebrate other people accomplishments: it has good effects on the world.

Ah yeah, probably. Misread it. I didn’t sleep that well. :)

I hope you'll recover during the day! Take it easy :)

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#14

People and companies that are attacking the device because it makes unlocking certain things easy should realize that the issues is not the device but the antiquated vehicles/door locking system that basically uses obscurity for it's security. If you can unlock your car with the flipper zero you can also do it with a ~100 USD SDR and an old laptop.

All the car locks can be opened by force using hammer, and in theory it should be equally illegal to force open as to use flipper. But in practice it gives plausible deniability if say a kid could use a toy like thing with some script downloaded from internet versus a guy breaking car window. Flipper kind of looks like a learning tool used for hacking, while SDR method seems like hacking tool that could be used for learning.

I wouldn't want flipper to be discontinued or anything but script kiddos are real.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#15
post #7

Are any more Flipper Zero units coming into the US? I heard that a shipment was seized a couple months ago, maybe due to national sanctions. (I have a Flipper Zero, but no time to play with it. Wondering whether I should sell it, or hold onto it because I won't be able to re-obtain one later.)

Mine was held up by the seizure. I got an email about it, but they were able get it out a month or so later. They were able to work around it, but I don’t recall the details. I think they had a blog post about it.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#16
post #10

People and companies that are attacking the device because it makes unlocking certain things easy should realize that the issues is not the device but the antiquated vehicles/door locking system that basically uses obscurity for it's security. If you can unlock your car with the flipper zero you can also do it with a ~100 USD SDR and an old laptop.

Do those arguments really hold up though? I get that these devices are sort of the “messenger” in “don’t shoot the messenger”, but still. Security is about appropriate security. A general teenager or thief wanting to cause issues would not know what to do with an SDR and laptop, versus something like the Flipper making it point and click. So now that something is made so readily available, we need to increase the cos…

Many solution exist (rolling codes, encryption, tight timing etc.) that make it difficult to open a vehicle quickly. The main issue is that there are still cars being sold which might as well have no locks at all.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

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post #10

People and companies that are attacking the device because it makes unlocking certain things easy should realize that the issues is not the device but the antiquated vehicles/door locking system that basically uses obscurity for it's security. If you can unlock your car with the flipper zero you can also do it with a ~100 USD SDR and an old laptop.

Do those arguments really hold up though? I get that these devices are sort of the “messenger” in “don’t shoot the messenger”, but still. Security is about appropriate security. A general teenager or thief wanting to cause issues would not know what to do with an SDR and laptop, versus something like the Flipper making it point and click. So now that something is made so readily available, we need to increase the cos…

>Is there an easy solution to improve locks on cars?

Public/Private Keys? You know a secure protocol like SSH?

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#18
post #4

> the Flipper is an awesome device. I'm kinda sad to understand that its successor is Linux based Anyone know where can I find more info on this "successor" I tried googling with no luck.

The HackRF One would be the bigger brother to the Flipper Zero.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

#19
Hey @antirez, if you're in the comments here I have a little question. I see someone asked about availability, since it's currently Sold Out. How often did you hit the Store before a unit was available? And was it a really narrow window of availablility? I'm wondering if I should write a little script that'll fetch the page, check availability and send me a notification or whether I should just remember to check the page myself every couple of days.

Re: Trying Out Flipper Zero

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post #19

Hey @antirez, if you're in the comments here I have a little question. I see someone asked about availability, since it's currently Sold Out. How often did you hit the Store before a unit was available? And was it a really narrow window of availablility? I'm wondering if I should write a little script that'll fetch the page, check availability and send me a notification or whether I should just remember to check the…

Hi! My purchase story was atypical: I saw the device, hit the official store, saw it available and just got it. Then I discovered I casually clicked in the exact right moment... No idea about their supply chain.
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