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Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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And nothing prevents new volcanic explosions from doing this again. How would the northern world deal with this today? Not that well.

Greenhouses and vertical farms would make the famine less severe; although our population is so high that it would get complicated fast

Microgreens and winter tomatoes aren't going to stave off famine.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Greenhouses and vertical farms would make the famine less severe; although our population is so high that it would get complicated fast

How many of these vertical farms do we have? How long do they take to build? What do they cost to run?

And how soon would their building be turned into yet another polarizing issue, or their building farmed out to contracting companies who would make most of the money disappear?

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Greenhouses and vertical farms would make the famine less severe; although our population is so high that it would get complicated fast

How many of these vertical farms do we have? How long do they take to build? What do they cost to run?

A global response on the scale of Covid to build vertical farms would reduce the severity of the famine dramatically.

It would be expensive, but the alternative would be burning cities and food riots. I can hardly imagine the USA avoiding a civil war considering how divisive and hostile things already have gotten

You can get hydroponics going fairly quickly, the bottleneck would be the supplies and supply chain — materials to build the with

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Related: Volcanoes, plague, famine and endless winter: Welcome to 536 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30621640 - March 2022 (39 comments) Skies went dark: Historians pinpoint the 'worst year' ever to be alive - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26786838 - April 2021 (117 comments) 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23565762 - June 2020 (356 comments) Why 536 w…

There's good document about 536: https://youtu.be/cKUz5Vjq9-s

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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How interesting that a bunch of tech nutcases now want to geoengineer the planet by dispersing sulphur into the stratosphere to dim the sun to 'tackle' climate change. Mind-blowing stupidity.

Because gradually injecting sulfur is the same as massive uncontrolled natural injections, right?

Nobody knows. Which is why it's colossally reckless to propose anything around this as a guaranteed solution, instead of a proposal that needs more research.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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And nothing prevents new volcanic explosions from doing this again. How would the northern world deal with this today? Not that well.

It might be even more bleak because we have 100X the population. I live near San Francisco and yesterday it rained more than usual which resulted in some highways literally shutting down and hours long traffic diversions. I have pretty low faith in us.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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How interesting that a bunch of tech nutcases now want to geoengineer the planet by dispersing sulphur into the stratosphere to dim the sun to 'tackle' climate change. Mind-blowing stupidity.

Because gradually injecting sulfur is the same as massive uncontrolled natural injections, right?

Who knows? Nobody, especially on a global scale, which is what they're suggesting.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because gradually injecting sulfur is the same as massive uncontrolled natural injections, right?

Nobody knows. Which is why it's colossally reckless to propose anything around this as a guaranteed solution, instead of a proposal that needs more research.

This is irrational pearl clutching. If sulfur is added, it will be done gradually, with the results monitored. There would not be some sort of catastrophic cooling.

The real sticking point would be that some countries would not want the cooling. Russia, say.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Greenhouses and vertical farms would make the famine less severe; although our population is so high that it would get complicated fast

Microgreens and winter tomatoes aren't going to stave off famine.

Beans beans the magical fruit
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