Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

lite.cnn.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 177 posts

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#11

Post by waboremo »

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #4
seydor wrote: post #2

This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.

[flagged]

At the very least, if you're going to propose a solution (to any problem), make sure it actually tackles the problem so that the problem is lessened or ceases to exist after the solution is applied. Otherwise what you've proposed isn't a solution at all, just a nonsensical statement. I would even go a step further and call your specific statement lacking empathy, bordering on sociopathic.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#14

Post by wldcordeiro »

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #4
seydor wrote: post #2

This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.

[flagged]

This is a disgusting viewpoint to have.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#15

Post by RGamma »

stuartjohnson12 wrote: post #7
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

The solution to kitten punting isn't to stop punting kittens because the kittens are clearly not strong enough to avoid being punted. This is brutal, I know, but kitten punting is unfortunately the reality of life on earth. No reason why kittens should be exempt. The solution to thirst isn't to provide water because the thirsty are clearly not strong enough to find water. This is brutal, I know, but thirst is unfortu…

Kitten punting... now that's a thing I didn't want to know exists.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#16

Post by ajmurmann »

seydor wrote: post #2

This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.

I wonder how these might look. Building relationships is really hard and ultimately that's what's needed. To build relationships, you need repeated exposure and need to overcome an initial barrier of familiarity to get to the point where you can have meaningful interactions and not just smalltalk.

Given men are also bad at maintaining relationships, I wonder if something like different, more communal living arrangements would be beneficial. I am thinking something like a dorm, but more luxurious with the common areas being more of a focus.

An idea that might accelerate overcoming the initial familiarity barrier might be something like the "question to fall in love" that made their rounds a few years back. I've seen a speed-dating version of similar, increasingly intimate questions build enormous feeling of trust within ~30 minutes as an icebreaker at a T-Group.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#17

Post by rabuse »

tshaddox wrote: post #5
dandare wrote: post #3

As with any male-specific problem, the progressive left will blame it on patriarchy and oppose any solution.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Controversial take, but the reinstitution of gender roles.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#19

Post by gedy »

tshaddox wrote: post #5
dandare wrote: post #3

As with any male-specific problem, the progressive left will blame it on patriarchy and oppose any solution.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Encourage nuclear families, marriage with children.

With that said, there seems to be some unique circumstances in Korea as it's not what I'd call a progressive culture and they have a very low birthrate.

Re: South Korea's middle aged men are dying 'lonely deaths'

#20

Post by falcolas »

rabuse wrote: post #17
tshaddox wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples of proposed solutions that the progressive left would oppose?

Controversial take, but the reinstitution of gender roles.

And how would traditional gender roles solve the lonely death problem?
Post reply on HN