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Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by britneybitch »

preisschild wrote: post #8
britneybitch wrote: post #7

Is there a reason LineageOS doesn't support recent Pixel hardware? I was planning to buy a Pixel to run Lineage, but the newest supported Pixels (5/5a) only have a support window of 3 years instead of 5 years for Pixel 6/7. And Pixel 5 is already close to 3 years old. I don't want to switch now if in a year I'll get hit with EOL and have to buy new hardware and switch to another OS.

I can recommend GrapheneOS instead of LineageOS if you have a Pixel phone. It benefits from a lot of security features only Pixel devices have. grapheneos.org

I looked at GrapheneOS too, but the author is philosophically opposed to letting users root their device.[1] I understand the security argument, I really do, but root is too useful to give up, and I don't want to be locked out of my own hardware. I'm informed of the risks and willing to accept the power/responsibility tradeoff.

[1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/du23la/rooted_o...

Re: LineageOS 20

#12

Post by 4cao »

britneybitch wrote: post #7

Is there a reason LineageOS doesn't support recent Pixel hardware? I was planning to buy a Pixel to run Lineage, but the newest supported Pixels (5/5a) only have a support window of 3 years instead of 5 years for Pixel 6/7. And Pixel 5 is already close to 3 years old. I don't want to switch now if in a year I'll get hit with EOL and have to buy new hardware and switch to another OS.

As a matter of fact, there have been unofficial builds [1], so it's not like the newer Pixel hardware isn't supported at all. Although being Exynos-based likely doesn't help.

Besides Graphene, there's also CalyxOS [2], which is basically like LineageOS with MicroG [3].

And for those who want GApps, they might like their Pixels on stock OS. In fact one of the more popular custom Android flavors these days is Pixel Experience, [4] trying to port these features to other devices.

1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-raven-orio...

2. https://calyxos.org/

3. https://microg.org/

4. https://download.pixelexperience.org/

Re: LineageOS 20

#13

Post by andrepd »

britneybitch wrote: post #11
preisschild wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can recommend GrapheneOS instead of LineageOS if you have a Pixel phone. It benefits from a lot of security features only Pixel devices have. grapheneos.org

I looked at GrapheneOS too, but the author is philosophically opposed to letting users root their device.[1] I understand the security argument, I really do, but root is too useful to give up, and I don't want to be locked out of my own hardware. I'm informed of the risks and willing to accept the power/responsibility tradeoff. [1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/du23la/rooted_o...

I think the same, that's why I settled on LineageOS+MicroG. No google spyware with near-perfect compatibility with the few non-Free apps I need to use. Slap an OS-wide content blocker for trackers and ads (AdAway) and a firewall in whitelist mode (AfWall+), and you're good to go! Great battery life and no spyware.

Re: LineageOS 20

#14

Post by britneybitch »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

I use this root-only charge controller: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-root-4-0-battery-char...

My battery is over 5 years old and still holds a charge like it's brand new.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by 4cao »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

> What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

On stock Android 12+ (LineageOS 19+), superuser access is necessary even to customize the default color scheme. (Except on Google Pixel devices, which have the UI for this built-in: but that's proprietary, not part of AOSP.)

The most common use cases would be easily installing and updating apps from third-party stores (such as F-Droid through their Privileged Extension) [1] and ad blocking.

1. https://f-droid.org/packages/org.fdroid.fdroid.privileged/

Re: LineageOS 20

#16

Post by spiritplumber »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

Easier to test apps, and, if I am treating my phone like any other of my devices, why would I not have root on it.

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by cmeacham98 »

leeoniya wrote: post #9
meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

being able to run AdAway which needs to modify the hosts file is one reason to root. removing bloatware and pre-installed system apps is another.

AdAway can run in VPN mode without root!

Also, you might need ADB, but there's ways to get rid of the bloatware without root: https://www.xda-developers.com/disable-system-app-bloatware-...

Re: LineageOS 20

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Post by petodo »

edent wrote: post #2

Does anyone know if it's possible to download and run the new Aperture camera on other devices? I see the source code at https://github.com/LineageOS/android_packages_apps_Aperture - but there are no downloads listed on https://www.apkmirror.com/uploads/?devcategory=lineageos

https://github.com/LineageOS/android_packages_apps_Aperture/...

under Artifacts?

Re: LineageOS 20

#19

Post by jrm4 »

meltyness wrote: post #5

Has anyone else ceased rooting their phone? It has begun to seem like an unnecessary risk, with the appearance of Android policies necessitating VPN Hotspot make manipulations to nftables, ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnho... ), trusting Magisk, going without Clockwork Mod on many platforms, eschewing security updates. What benefits are you guys reaping from taking root, these days?

More out of inertia than anything else. Family, kids etc. If I had all the time in the world i'd probably still be going at it.

Re: LineageOS 20

#20

Post by jrm4 »

Apologies if this is somewhat of a thread hijack, but what's the current state of "Android apps on Linux?" and is anyone aware of a guide to make this easier? It's in the state of one of those things that ought to be really easy and is probably (I'm not sure) hard due to Google resistances (as in, you used to just be able to run them in Chrome?

My use case is "my kid has a Chromebook, and along with the stupid games, there are some art apps that I see are good for her style," but I'd love to have the best of both worlds, because it really seems like it should not be that hard.

I'm messing around with Waydroid now, but it's super fiddly?

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