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Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

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Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

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It's shows just how pointless it is to have this much money and only bad things come from it. Tax anything above 1 billion at 100%. If that isn't realized gains do not allow them to borrow against it. No loop holes. The US and others managed to set a global minimum coorperate tax so this is doable.

Do you really think he has that much liquid cash, and he physically lost $200 billion?

Like I said, liquid or not, they can borrow against it tax free which in itself should be a crime.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#12

Another example of the error of conflating the purported value of some pieces of paper with real money. It's not like Elon had $200B sitting in a safe and one day it was all gone. That would be a "real loss". Our capitalist system is more like a visiting a casino. No matter how many chips you win or lose at the tables. The only result that matters is how much money you walk out with.

While I agree that plenty of people (deliberately?) misunderstand how net worth is calculated, what would be the equivalent of “walking out” in this scenario? Transferring your assets to cash that’s going to be devalued by the government issuing more currency?

It’s become extremely difficult to find an asset that’s both liquid and preserves value nowadays. Is cash the money-est money there is? I’m not so sure.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#13
post #9

It's shows just how pointless it is to have this much money and only bad things come from it. Tax anything above 1 billion at 100%. If that isn't realized gains do not allow them to borrow against it. No loop holes. The US and others managed to set a global minimum coorperate tax so this is doable.

Do you really think he has that much liquid cash, and he physically lost $200 billion?

Don't deflate their victory over his loss of funny money

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

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Another example of the error of conflating the purported value of some pieces of paper with real money. It's not like Elon had $200B sitting in a safe and one day it was all gone. That would be a "real loss". Our capitalist system is more like a visiting a casino. No matter how many chips you win or lose at the tables. The only result that matters is how much money you walk out with.

While I agree that plenty of people (deliberately?) misunderstand how net worth is calculated, what would be the equivalent of “walking out” in this scenario? Transferring your assets to cash that’s going to be devalued by the government issuing more currency? It’s become extremely difficult to find an asset that’s both liquid and preserves value nowadays. Is cash the money-est money there is? I’m not so sure.

Perhaps, exchanging cash for some real utility.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#16

Another example of the error of conflating the purported value of some pieces of paper with real money. It's not like Elon had $200B sitting in a safe and one day it was all gone. That would be a "real loss". Our capitalist system is more like a visiting a casino. No matter how many chips you win or lose at the tables. The only result that matters is how much money you walk out with.

While I agree that plenty of people (deliberately?) misunderstand how net worth is calculated, what would be the equivalent of “walking out” in this scenario? Transferring your assets to cash that’s going to be devalued by the government issuing more currency? It’s become extremely difficult to find an asset that’s both liquid and preserves value nowadays. Is cash the money-est money there is? I’m not so sure.

Elon M speaks of things infinite money can't buy. LEO proliferated communication satellites was pretty much not available before SpaceX levelled up the game. ULA is a money magnet on the books.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree that plenty of people (deliberately?) misunderstand how net worth is calculated, what would be the equivalent of “walking out” in this scenario? Transferring your assets to cash that’s going to be devalued by the government issuing more currency? It’s become extremely difficult to find an asset that’s both liquid and preserves value nowadays. Is cash the money-est money there is? I’m not so sure.

Elon M speaks of things infinite money can't buy. LEO proliferated communication satellites was pretty much not available before SpaceX levelled up the game. ULA is a money magnet on the books.

If there’s one thing I’d consider valuable that the man is responsible for, it’s SpaceX. I’m not sure I’d invest in Tesla even at half its current price, but if SpaceX ever went public, I’d be on it immediately.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree that plenty of people (deliberately?) misunderstand how net worth is calculated, what would be the equivalent of “walking out” in this scenario? Transferring your assets to cash that’s going to be devalued by the government issuing more currency? It’s become extremely difficult to find an asset that’s both liquid and preserves value nowadays. Is cash the money-est money there is? I’m not so sure.

Perhaps, exchanging cash for some real utility.

For sure, and that’s the “medium of exchange” aspect of it. But it’s still not the best store of value…

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Person Ever to Lose $200B

#19
Midas lost his touch once he decided to jump into politics and champion "free speech" by doing exactly what he railed against.

Who knew that the right wing version of "freedom" is really about using money to promote more bias?

Who knew that blatant right wing hypocrisy was bad for business?

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