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Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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Re: Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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This is clearly riffing on Ørberg's Lingua Latīna per sē illūstrāta , which is a great introductory book to teaching yourself Latin. There are no explanations of anything; you have to deduce the meaning of the Latin phrases using the contextual clues given to you in the form of pictures and maps. And it works well.

Duolingo also has a Latin course: * https://www.duolingo.com/course/la/en/Learn-Latin Haven't tried it myself.

I am told by people who know better than me that it's quite terrible.

Re: Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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I only did Greek Language Transfer and Duolingo for a couple of months, but some words and even sentences sampled at random do make sense to me. Would you recommend the book to modern Greek learners as reading material?

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The idea seems cool but I don't understand how this is meant to be used in practice, for a beginner. As support for a structured course?

> Can I use LGPSI to teach myself Greek? Honestly, not yet. Would I like LGPSI to get to the point where you could entirely use it, by itself, by yourself, to learn Greek (as you can do with LLPSI)? Yes, certainly. It's not at that point, and I don't expect it to reach that point especially quickly. https://seumasjeltzz.github.io/LinguaeGraecaePerSeIllustrata...

I wonder how they are going to make it easier to understand the Greek alphabet. With LLPSI at least it can be given for granted that the great part of readers will be able to decode the Latin alphabet (and, say, understand what "Roma", "Italia" and "Europa" are even if they don't know Latin yet), given that English, Spanish and French made it (in different ages) the "alphabetus francus" for basically the whole world. That seems much less obvious with the Greek alphabet.

Re: Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can I use LGPSI to teach myself Greek? Honestly, not yet. Would I like LGPSI to get to the point where you could entirely use it, by itself, by yourself, to learn Greek (as you can do with LLPSI)? Yes, certainly. It's not at that point, and I don't expect it to reach that point especially quickly. https://seumasjeltzz.github.io/LinguaeGraecaePerSeIllustrata...

I wonder how they are going to make it easier to understand the Greek alphabet. With LLPSI at least it can be given for granted that the great part of readers will be able to decode the Latin alphabet (and, say, understand what "Roma", "Italia" and "Europa" are even if they don't know Latin yet), given that English, Spanish and French made it (in different ages) the "alphabetus francus" for basically the whole world.…

Someone could record an audiobook version so people can read along and figure out the sound values on the fly.

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It would be amazing if there was something like this for Mishnaic Hebrew and Jewish Babylonian Aramaic. Classical Arabic too. Super helpful!

My vote would be for Sanskrit, though I'm very pleased a Greek version exists.

It exists, and it's very good.

https://en.amarahasa.com/

Re: Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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first perhaps insignificant problem: lingua latina per se illustrata is indeed the latin for, paraphrasing here, teaching latin in latin. to borrow from this reference at all, the book should have a comparative title in greek. the first problem with learning greek is getting familiar with the alphabets and their phonetics, a problem almost non-existent with latin since the latin script is very widespread. regardless, i'll take it for a spin. i've had polis' speaking greek as a living language (https://www.polisjerusalem.org/resource/speaking-ancient-gre...) sitting on my shelf but haven't had time to study.

Re: Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata

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For reference: this book is obviously a (praiseworthy) ambition to have a Greek counterpart to the Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata[1] by Hans Ørberg. Ørberg's way of teaching Latin is, in my view, excellent because it is based on a natural view of learning a language: show something, say what its name is, use its name in simple sentences, work up from there. Each time introducing new words surrounded by already-known…

Also worth pointing out that LLPSI is essentially Hans Ørberg's life's work. It's been adjusted and fine-tuned for decades, and it really shows. While at a surface level it looks fairly simple, it is no small task to repeat the process with another language.

Giuseppi Peano tried to get people to learn an "unconjugated latin" by writing mathematics in it. eg https://archive.org/details/formulairedemat04peangoog/page/n... (mini rationale https://archive.org/details/formulairedemat04peangoog/page/n... )

Maybe set theory wasn't the best way of introducing a conlang, but I have to take my hat off for the weird flex.

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