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Madison Avenue may disagree about the statement about creative people. There are a lot of creatives in New York especially. As for good-looking people, there are several fashion modeling agencies there, which are an integral part of advertising. :)
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Madison Avenue may disagree about the statement about creative people. There are a lot of creatives in New York especially. As for good-looking people, there are several fashion modeling agencies there, which are an integral part of advertising. :)
> Madison Avenue may disagree about the statement about creative people.
It was a joke :)
I don't think any reasonable person believes that NYC is devoid of good-looking and creative people.
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#15tl;dr Kathy Hochul sabotaged the version of the bill passed by the state legislature so that it requires only what Apple and Samsung are already doing The version that came out of the legislature would have required OEMs to sell individual components instead of only larger assemblies. For example, if something on a macbook board breaks they have to sell the individual component. Currently Apple/Samsung require you to…
>(for some reason?? doesn't seem very pro-democracy to me). Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment. So the blame should be equally shared by everyone. And democrats wonder why they lose seats in NY.
>>Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment.
Pretty sure the legislature is not currently in session and could not have "agreed" which to most people would be voting on, the amendments to the law.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
>(for some reason?? doesn't seem very pro-democracy to me). Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment. So the blame should be equally shared by everyone. And democrats wonder why they lose seats in NY.
They lost them because of massive population loss over the last few years.
They lost them in terms of population, and the lost them in terms of party flips. The primary reason Republicans have a slim Majority in the next session of the US House is party flips in NY and FL
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They lost them because of massive population loss over the last few years.
They lost them in terms of population, and the lost them in terms of party flips. The primary reason Republicans have a slim Majority in the next session of the US House is party flips in NY and FL
There were also a couple seats in CA the left expected to take from the right and failed to do so. The right in CA figured out they need to ballot harvest (it is legal here).
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
>(for some reason?? doesn't seem very pro-democracy to me). Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment. So the blame should be equally shared by everyone. And democrats wonder why they lose seats in NY.
>>Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment. Pretty sure the legislature is not currently in session and could not have "agreed" which to most people would be voting on, the amendments to the law.
"I am pleased to have reached an agreement with the legislature to address these issues," Hochul wrote.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>Pretty sure that the legislature agreed to the amendment. Pretty sure the legislature is not currently in session and could not have "agreed" which to most people would be voting on, the amendments to the law.
"I am pleased to have reached an agreement with the legislature to address these issues," Hochul wrote.
Yes I am aware of what she said. You have yet to provide what that means, clearly no vote took place as they are not in session. So how did the legislature agree, under what law, rule, or mechanism was this agreement reached.
I have yet to see anyone explain that, they just keel quoting the governor which has zero meaning and given I do not trust the governor I have not reason to trust that statement
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#20Louis Rossmann claims in this video that the bills text was changed in the last few days, an argument that hinges solely on the text of the memorandum attached to the governor signing it, which mentions an "agreement" between Governor and legislative, and hints at the content of said agreement. The document number mentioned in the memorandum as the signed bill is S4104-A
According to the New York State Senate[1] the current version of the bill is S4104A from May 2022, which passed both Senate and Assembly in June. Note that nysenate.gov, at the time of me writing this, has not yet acknowledged the governor signing the bill, or filed any "agreement" with the governor or a changed version of the document. The New York State Assembly[2] has noted the signing and memorandum under actions, but published neither, nor an updated version of the bill.
Are such "agreements to last minute changes" an actual thing in New York? Without changing the document number? Without filing the changes in a public documentation system? Without Senate and Assembly voting on the changes and documenting the vote? Can the New York State governor just scribble annotations in the margins when signing bills and those also become law?
My first guess was that the memorandum includes a badly worded summary of the changes made earlier this year (S4104 -> S4104A) which passed the Senate and Assembly in June. But the memorandum mentions "provide assemblies of parts instead of individual components", which is the main hot button issue in the video, as well as eliminating the requirement to override security features, a big change to section 2.B of the bill, and exempting business-to-business and business-to-government sales. None of that seems to be present in document S4104A. So the memorandum seems to not be talking about the changes made earlier this year.
Is the text of the memorandum about some agreement between governor and legislative complete and utter nonsense? Does the legislative process in New York State allow such last minute changes?
The more i look at this, the worse it gets. There is a lot of criticize this bill for, like exempting motor vehicles and home appliances even if they include electronics. Some rather weird notice about federal law having a problem with repairing gaming consoles. But more than the law itself the process is broken. Why is the only source of this memorandum the twitter account of a journalist[3]? There is a press release on the governors website[4] but where is the canonical source of the memorandum? Does the Governor of New York State not operate a public filing system? And who is responsible to publish the actual signed bill to the public? According to Wikipedia[5] getting deep insight into the legislative process requires a paid subscription. WTF?
New York State may need to repair more than just their consumer electronics.
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1: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/s4104/ Bill according to Senate
2: https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A07006&term=2021&Actions=Y Bill according to Assembly
3: https://twitter.com/JonCampbellNY/status/1608327624526548993 Memorandum 93
4: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-signs-digit... Governors Press Release
5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_Bill_Drafting_Comm...