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Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by muro »

StringyBob wrote: post #5
muro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: if they could create a gap between the screen and the keys, so the screen is not always smudged after closing the MacBook. Aka, if you use your MacBook as a laptop, the screen will be dirty even if you are careful to never mistakenly touch it.

For at least one gen of MacBooks (maybe the ill-fated 2016 MacBook Pros?), this was actually a design fault. In the battle for thinness there was not enough separation between screen and keys when closed, leading to damage to screen coating over time. Newer versions had a slightly larger rubber lip on the screen to increase the separation - as I noticed after getting a replacement for a damaged model

I now have the M1 MacBook Pro and it still has that issue.

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by CSSer »

aflam wrote: post #7

Last year I wanted to have a table custom built using those shapes. It's easy with CNC: https://shapescience.xyz/blog/creating-a-super-ellipsis-tabl...

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing. Is numpy just global in Python now? I see it everywhere, and I eventually sound it out. Yet I never fail to have a few moments where I go, “Wait, what is ‘np’? Oh, yeah… Numpy.” And I always feel like just listing it as an import in the snippet would’ve solved it.

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by CSSer »

muro wrote: post #11
StringyBob wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For at least one gen of MacBooks (maybe the ill-fated 2016 MacBook Pros?), this was actually a design fault. In the battle for thinness there was not enough separation between screen and keys when closed, leading to damage to screen coating over time. Newer versions had a slightly larger rubber lip on the screen to increase the separation - as I noticed after getting a replacement for a damaged model

I now have the M1 MacBook Pro and it still has that issue.

On the brightside, if you ignore it until you can’t see your screen properly it’s like the heavens have opened once you finish cleaning it.

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by tosc »

CSSer wrote: post #13
muro wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I now have the M1 MacBook Pro and it still has that issue.

On the brightside, if you ignore it until you can’t see your screen properly it’s like the heavens have opened once you finish cleaning it.

Have you tried putting gravel in your socks at the beginning of the day? It feels great when you get home and finally take them off.

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by tonyarkles »

CSSer wrote: post #12
aflam wrote: post #7

Last year I wanted to have a table custom built using those shapes. It's easy with CNC: https://shapescience.xyz/blog/creating-a-super-ellipsis-tabl...

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing. Is numpy just global in Python now? I see it everywhere, and I eventually sound it out. Yet I never fail to have a few moments where I go, “Wait, what is ‘np’? Oh, yeah… Numpy.” And I always feel like just listing it as an import in the snippet would’ve solved it.

Just a “standard” convention. I’ve been doing a bunch of analysis work lately and almost all of the scripts start with something like:

    import numpy as np
    import pandas as pd
    import seaborn as sns 
    import sympy as sp

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

#16

Post by CSSer »

tosc wrote: post #14
CSSer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the brightside, if you ignore it until you can’t see your screen properly it’s like the heavens have opened once you finish cleaning it.

Have you tried putting gravel in your socks at the beginning of the day? It feels great when you get home and finally take them off.

You win. I chuckled. You know I was making a bit of a joke too, right?

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by crazygringo »

eternityforest wrote: post #4
muro wrote: post #2

I wish they would put in at least some basic effort into smoothing that sharp edge where wrists often rest when using the MacBook, rather than just the curvature of the corner. Any cheap laptop is nicer to my wrists than a MacBook.

Apple has beautiful squircle curves the rest of us can't have unless we want expensive CAD tools and extra JS files, but they also have plenty of sharp transitions. Look at their cables, that have no strain relief, being a bad influence on every other cable for a decade. It's basically just Bauhaus design but with a few nice soft features, it's gonna be a bit uncomfortable, it's gonna be expensive, it might compromis…

What are you talking about, every Apple USB and Lightning cable I've ever had has had strain relief on both ends.

There's the main plug in a plastic housing, and then there's an extra-thick rubber part about a centimeter long which is the strain relief wrapped around the cable, and then the rest of the cable itself. Clearly visible in any product photograph close-up.

Re: Curvature consistency in Apple hardware and software products (2017)

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Post by pja »

crazygringo wrote: post #19
eternityforest wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has beautiful squircle curves the rest of us can't have unless we want expensive CAD tools and extra JS files, but they also have plenty of sharp transitions. Look at their cables, that have no strain relief, being a bad influence on every other cable for a decade. It's basically just Bauhaus design but with a few nice soft features, it's gonna be a bit uncomfortable, it's gonna be expensive, it might compromis…

What are you talking about, every Apple USB and Lightning cable I've ever had has had strain relief on both ends. There's the main plug in a plastic housing, and then there's an extra-thick rubber part about a centimeter long which is the strain relief wrapped around the cable, and then the rest of the cable itself. Clearly visible in any product photograph close-up.

Yes & it doesn’t work very well. Or at least it didn‘t,

Apple has been notorious for sacrificing good strain relief on their cables in pursuit of aesthetics for years. Possibly things have improved now that Ive has left, but there was a period a few years ago when everyone I knew with a Macbook had wrapped the power cable in electrical tape because the cable housing had failed just above the (useless) strain relief sleeve you describe.

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