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No Other Options: Newly revealed documents depict Canadian euthanasia regime

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Re: No Other Options: Newly revealed documents depict Canadian euthanasia regime

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Post by nonethewiser »

bmelton wrote: post #8
mmastrac wrote: post #3

The whole argument against MAID feels ridiculously like the anti-abortion position. The other option to providing it is having them end their life in a way that might be risky or fail to succeed in a way that leaves them painfully scarred for life or suffering more than they had to. Why are people forced to live if they don't want to?

I am sympathetic to those who wish for assisted suicide to prevent pain for diseases or illnesses they've succumbed to. I agree with your thesis that death may be preferential to suffering, and should be available to those who seek it. On the other hand, there are articles like this[1], wherein the main factor for the requested euthanasia is income. "But until recently, he was able to live comfortably, sharing his mo…

When the state pays for your healthcare, your health will never be the top priority.

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Post by dbt00 »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

The whole argument against MAID feels ridiculously like the anti-abortion position. The other option to providing it is having them end their life in a way that might be risky or fail to succeed in a way that leaves them painfully scarred for life or suffering more than they had to. Why are people forced to live if they don't want to?

I don't have a problem with people getting MAID, but I do have a problem with medical practitioners pushing it on people who want to live but can't get basic resources to deal with very manageable disabilities.

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Post by bjt2n3904 »

htag wrote: post #4

> The Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers, the leading organization of Canadian euthanasia providers, has sat on credible evidence by its own members that people are being driven to euthanasia by credit card debt, poor housing, and difficulties getting medical care. Did I miss the actual concrete evidence this is being purposefully being used to reduce certain populations?

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Re: No Other Options: Newly revealed documents depict Canadian euthanasia regime

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Post by mmastrac »

slaw wrote: post #13
treeman79 wrote: post #2

Been noticing a lot of articles on people being advised to be euthanized for depression and other concerns.

I only read one article about para-olympic person asking for help and given suggestion to commit suicide instead.

And that person was in veteran affairs, a lone case, and is no longer in that position. [1]

[1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investig...

Re: No Other Options: Newly revealed documents depict Canadian euthanasia regime

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Post by mmastrac »

htag wrote: post #4

> The Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers, the leading organization of Canadian euthanasia providers, has sat on credible evidence by its own members that people are being driven to euthanasia by credit card debt, poor housing, and difficulties getting medical care. Did I miss the actual concrete evidence this is being purposefully being used to reduce certain populations?

I suspect the author has an agenda and a slant, given the read of his twitter account and some of the slippery logic he's using in this article.

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Post by tomrod »

mmastrac wrote: post #16
htag wrote: post #4

> The Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers, the leading organization of Canadian euthanasia providers, has sat on credible evidence by its own members that people are being driven to euthanasia by credit card debt, poor housing, and difficulties getting medical care. Did I miss the actual concrete evidence this is being purposefully being used to reduce certain populations?

I suspect the author has an agenda and a slant, given the read of his twitter account and some of the slippery logic he's using in this article.

No post body was provided.

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Post by stubish »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

The whole argument against MAID feels ridiculously like the anti-abortion position. The other option to providing it is having them end their life in a way that might be risky or fail to succeed in a way that leaves them painfully scarred for life or suffering more than they had to. Why are people forced to live if they don't want to?

Euthanasia is a decision you will never regret. We force people to live if they don't want to because of other people's feelings. Per the article, 'many people are choosing euthanasia because they’re not getting the “supports and cares” they need.'. On one hand, someone ends their suffering and stops caring about any 'what if' scenarios. On the other hand, a lot of people feel bad and look bad because they were involved in creating and supporting or failing to support the system that failed to provide the support and care the deceased needed. And the surviving friends and relatives who do care about the lost potential.

Re: No Other Options: Newly revealed documents depict Canadian euthanasia regime

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Post by tomrod »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #14
htag wrote: post #4

> The Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers, the leading organization of Canadian euthanasia providers, has sat on credible evidence by its own members that people are being driven to euthanasia by credit card debt, poor housing, and difficulties getting medical care. Did I miss the actual concrete evidence this is being purposefully being used to reduce certain populations?

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That isn't a solution, its a personal ideology made manifest and an extreme response to the recent controversy around a veteran inappropriately offered MAID for PTSD and suicidal thoughts, for which the offeror was sacked.

There are legitimate, compassionate reasons to allow people the choice to die with dignity.

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