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Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by rvz »

yread wrote: post #10
bnt wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Mastodon will never take off.

If Mastodon wasn't taking off they wouldn't have to block the links

Twitter did it before in the past [0] and Mastodon still didn't 'take off'. Today it is no different, and just like before in tech circles, this outrage will just subside as it is not the end of the world.

Other than the techies getting emotional and screaming at Twitter, little to no one of the 200M+ people still using Twitter daily care to delete their account(s) and leave for something worse.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31607941

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by LightHugger »

proc0 wrote: post #7
akmarinov wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Help others do the same and take away as much traffic as possible away

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

youtube lets you advertise other video platforms and always has, what are you talking about?

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by q1w2 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #8
proc0 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

That depends on what the purpose of the platform is, and since the owner had previously made a point of being keen on free speech, it's interesting that it's actually not being run in line with those ideals at all. We're now seeing that the carve outs from free speech include things that might reduce profit, and the reposting of public flight data.

The irony is that the people complaining about Elon's censorship were pro-censorship before his takeover.

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by smoe »

proc0 wrote: post #7
akmarinov wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Help others do the same and take away as much traffic as possible away

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

Plenty of Youtubers with millions of subscribers regularly advertise their content on other video platforms such as Nebula. Doesn't seem to be an issue.

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by sebazzz »

smoe wrote: post #15
proc0 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

Plenty of Youtubers with millions of subscribers regularly advertise their content on other video platforms such as Nebula. Doesn't seem to be an issue.

Would it be an issue if YouTube took offense to that and added a clause to the ToS to disallow it?

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by smoe »

sebazzz wrote: post #16
smoe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of Youtubers with millions of subscribers regularly advertise their content on other video platforms such as Nebula. Doesn't seem to be an issue.

Would it be an issue if YouTube took offense to that and added a clause to the ToS to disallow it?

At least for the creators I follow, they use alternative platforms for additional content (not replacement for their YT videos) for things that don't perform so well trough the YT algorithms like long form, in-depth videos that are less advertiser friendly than pure infotainment, and e.g. music educators doing song analysis which is too risky to do on YT although to my understanding it falls perfectly under the fair use doctrine.

I don't even see them as competing platforms, they offer very different products via the same medium. Legally, I don't know if having such ToS would be a problem, but as a user I would find it extremely frustrating to not have to ability to discover content that YT seemingly doesn't want to focus on itself.

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by proc0 »

LightHugger wrote: post #12
proc0 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

youtube lets you advertise other video platforms and always has, what are you talking about?

What about this? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en

Re: Twitter has flagged all the major Mastodon servers as malware

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Post by torben-friis »

q1w2 wrote: post #13
kybernetikos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends on what the purpose of the platform is, and since the owner had previously made a point of being keen on free speech, it's interesting that it's actually not being run in line with those ideals at all. We're now seeing that the carve outs from free speech include things that might reduce profit, and the reposting of public flight data.

The irony is that the people complaining about Elon's censorship were pro-censorship before his takeover.

Why?

I am very much in favor of premarital sex, but if the Pope is seen tomorrow in an orgy I'll certainly point the hypocrisy.

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