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‘Luddite’ Teens

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#11
It's a sad story.

I was at a coffee shop yday and made the mistake of sitting next to their huge decked up christmas tree. Wasn't crowded but there was a constant stream of teen girls shooting selfie with the tree. Each one taking literally hundreds of pics to get the 'right' one.

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#12
post #4

I admire the hell out of these kids. If I had a little more strength in my own convictions, a little more willpower, I would probably go flip-phone only too. Yes, they're kind of posturing and pretentious, but in ways that remind me of myself in high school; I feel like I get them. Your average high school kid is a lot more confusing to me these days. I did have to laugh at this: > "I talked to my adviser, though, an…

Try flip an hour a day and work up. We used to only have landlines and phortress phones, and yet somehow still survived. I always liked how 1984's Goldstein said that in principle Inner Party children did not automatically become Inner themselves.

What is a phortress phone?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try flip an hour a day and work up. We used to only have landlines and phortress phones, and yet somehow still survived. I always liked how 1984's Goldstein said that in principle Inner Party children did not automatically become Inner themselves.

What is a phortress phone?

https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+phone+booth&tbm=isch

a pay phone (phortress, because it was safer to phreak from than a home phone)

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a phortress phone?

https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+phone+booth&tbm=isch a pay phone (phortress, because it was safer to phreak from than a home phone)

For the nostalgia of it: https://www.2600.com/payphones

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#15
post #7

Things are going to get interesting in a few years when these kids get jobs and can practice their machine-breaking in earnest.

a little more difficult now that no one wears those wooden shoes anymore, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabot_(shoe)

They'll still stick it to the man when their employer expects them to provide a personal phone for 2FA and don't have one.

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#16
post #4

I admire the hell out of these kids. If I had a little more strength in my own convictions, a little more willpower, I would probably go flip-phone only too. Yes, they're kind of posturing and pretentious, but in ways that remind me of myself in high school; I feel like I get them. Your average high school kid is a lot more confusing to me these days. I did have to laugh at this: > "I talked to my adviser, though, an…

You just have to look at the pictures of the article to see that they have money.

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#17

I've been experimenting with a "no phone" protocol for a few months now. It has been amazing. Only occasionally problematic/inconvenient, mostly miss the GPS and music. Most things I used to do on phone I simply do on a laptop. But not constantly grabbing for a phone and staring at a screen... priceless.

I still use a small mp3 player - no video just a tiny digital display. They're so superior to any smart phone for actually playing music. Tiny, fits in any pocket easily, volume and be adjusted and tracks changed without looking at it...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

a little more difficult now that no one wears those wooden shoes anymore, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabot_(shoe)

They'll still stick it to the man when their employer expects them to provide a personal phone for 2FA and don't have one.

Several people at my work refuse to install work software on personal phones so the company bought them yubikeys to use instead.

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#19
I appreciate that they’ve recognized they have choices, and are being supported in the choices they’re making.

It’s not a choice I’ll make (I lived that life without a choice for several decades; I’m good), but I still like that they can.

Re: ‘Luddite’ Teens

#20

I've been experimenting with a "no phone" protocol for a few months now. It has been amazing. Only occasionally problematic/inconvenient, mostly miss the GPS and music. Most things I used to do on phone I simply do on a laptop. But not constantly grabbing for a phone and staring at a screen... priceless.

>But not constantly grabbing for a phone and staring at a screen... priceless.

And once the spell is broken, you find yourself staring at people stumbling around, tied to their tiny screens.

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