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Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

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Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

#11

One of the last major differences between android and iOS that actually has a direct effect on non techies. This would be huge.

I don't think it has a direct effect on non-techies at all. The only people I know sideloading APKS for Android are techies.

Sideloading ad free YouTube is semi common.

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

#13

One of the last major differences between android and iOS that actually has a direct effect on non techies. This would be huge.

I don't think it has a direct effect on non-techies at all. The only people I know sideloading APKS for Android are techies.

The only people I know side loading on iOS are developers.

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

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post #2

This is interesting! Just indifferent about this right now as this could cause store fragmentation, but also gives users the ability to install apps that are not available in their region.

That seems to be the most common fear, but I can't see devs moving their apps off the default app store - that would be a terrible move for sales.

The only apps that are going to be available on third party app stores but not on the official one are going to be apps that would have never been available on iPhone at all in the first place if not for this change.

We already have a real world example of this exact situation with Android, and there's no real store fragmentation there.

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

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post #10

This will cut revenue. If twitter-class apps move, and if Apple cannot contract enforce the 30% cut on some component of payment. So, I expect some reaction in terms of future earnings from this. This will weaken the defences of the walled garden, unless Apple mark-sweep the 3rd party stores. If you value a walled garden, and some people do, then the walls got lower. This isn't necessarily good. I expect to see ringf…

twitter class apps on android can be sideloaded today. What %age of users actually sideload them vs getting them through the play store. i.e. how many of these apps actually provide an apk to install directly.

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

#16
post #10

This will cut revenue. If twitter-class apps move, and if Apple cannot contract enforce the 30% cut on some component of payment. So, I expect some reaction in terms of future earnings from this. This will weaken the defences of the walled garden, unless Apple mark-sweep the 3rd party stores. If you value a walled garden, and some people do, then the walls got lower. This isn't necessarily good. I expect to see ringf…

twitter class apps on android can be sideloaded today. What %age of users actually sideload them vs getting them through the play store. i.e. how many of these apps actually provide an apk to install directly.

I sort of get what I think is your point, user behaviour here is probably modelled on what happens in a domain similar to the one under discussion.

But Apple experience has been far more constrained and it's single source with almost no prior of sideloading. They're a different set. I am less sure how any sideload in Android or install alternate marketplaces is informing, maybe it's the best information we have.

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

#17
post #2

This is interesting! Just indifferent about this right now as this could cause store fragmentation, but also gives users the ability to install apps that are not available in their region.

That seems to be the most common fear, but I can't see devs moving their apps off the default app store - that would be a terrible move for sales. The only apps that are going to be available on third party app stores but not on the official one are going to be apps that would have never been available on iPhone at all in the first place if not for this change. We already have a real world example of this exact situa…

This is a nice assurance then, thank you

Re: Report: Apple plans to support sideloading and third-party app stores by 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it has a direct effect on non-techies at all. The only people I know sideloading APKS for Android are techies.

Sideloading ad free YouTube is semi common.

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