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Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #5

kleiba wrote: post #3

A drastic reminder of the pure luxury we're allowed to live in in the West, and a call to arms against all those trying to threaten our democracies.

I’m reluctant to use “luxury” to describe these rights, and even more reluctant to suggest the west shares them well. The former sets up an argument that these rights are superfluous, and the latter fails to recognize areas where the west does poorly at upholding rights, especially the limitations on speech imposed by many western governments.

> former sets up an argument that these rights are superfluous

Luxury has more than one meaning [1]. If you prefer the language of counting blessings, so be it, though I could also pedantically quibble it implies a divine underwriting of our fundamental rights.

> the latter fails to recognize areas where the west does poorly at upholding rights, especially the limitations on speech imposed by many western governments

This crosses from pedantic quibbling to missing the forest for the trees.

[1] https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/luxury

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by dtx1 » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:42 PM UTC

At some point we have to accept that this is the People of North Koreas fault. They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world, yet they don't murder their kings.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by esailija » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:45 PM UTC

sushzbdbehsh wrote: post #4

>SOURCE: RADIO FREE ASIA, LIBERTY TIMES

I.E. US State Department

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by notRobot » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:45 PM UTC

dtx1 wrote: post #12

At some point we have to accept that this is the People of North Koreas fault. They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world, yet they don't murder their kings.

Lmao.

> They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world

That's not necessarily true. They don't have access to the internet or foreign media. Only propaganda.

> yet they don't murder their kings

If it was that easy, every country would be a democracy.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by 41tor » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:45 PM UTC

Rest in power.

Death to totalitarians.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by 41tor » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:46 PM UTC

esailija wrote: post #13

sushzbdbehsh wrote: post #4

>SOURCE: RADIO FREE ASIA, LIBERTY TIMES

I.E. US State Department

So to clarify, what's your issue here? Do you think they weren't executed? Or is it that you think executing them is totally normal and cool?

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by LatteLazy » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:47 PM UTC

dtx1 wrote: post #12

At some point we have to accept that this is the People of North Koreas fault. They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world, yet they don't murder their kings.

Both China and the US actively support the regime in material terms.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by crims0n » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:48 PM UTC

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #5

kleiba wrote: post #3

A drastic reminder of the pure luxury we're allowed to live in in the West, and a call to arms against all those trying to threaten our democracies.

I’m reluctant to use “luxury” to describe these rights, and even more reluctant to suggest the west shares them well. The former sets up an argument that these rights are superfluous, and the latter fails to recognize areas where the west does poorly at upholding rights, especially the limitations on speech imposed by many western governments.

OP was making the point that we shouldn't take our rights in the West for granted, because there are people in the world who have it demonstrably worse. Not every statement needs to account for all variables.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by someweirdperson » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:48 PM UTC

dtx1 wrote: post #12

At some point we have to accept that this is the People of North Koreas fault. They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world, yet they don't murder their kings.

It seems that many seem to love their king. Why shouldn't they? All information they have received for multiple generations says their king is the greatest.

Re: North Korea – teenagers executed for distributing South Korean movies

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Post by 41tor » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 12:48 PM UTC

notRobot wrote: post #14

dtx1 wrote: post #12

At some point we have to accept that this is the People of North Koreas fault. They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world, yet they don't murder their kings.

Lmao. > They are very aware that their country is massively worse off than the rest of the world That's not necessarily true. They don't have access to the internet or foreign media. Only propaganda. > yet they don't murder their kings If it was that easy, every country would be a democracy.

>That's not necessarily true. They don't have access to the internet or foreign media. Only propaganda.

That's wildly inaccurate, read "Nothing to Envy" then educate yourself on advancements in censorship circumvention since then -- they regularly get movies and films on USB paired with broadcasts into border regions.