Hope you move out of USA the next time that country starts a war of agression under the pretext of "fighting terrorism" or whatever excuse they come up with.
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Now if only people in USA had courage to stand up and start prosecuting those behind drone strikes and invasions of Iraq and Afganistan.
Both were dictatorships and terrorist nations. Not even close to equivalent. Ukraine is a democracy of 45 million people that's never threatened another nation.
Lol. The USA is the premier terrorist nation in the world, they funded Al-Qaeda and countless anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorist cells across the world. So according to your definition, the USA deserves to be invaded, since they are "a terrorist nation".
Also, Ukraine has not been a real democracy for a long time. The communist party is banned (https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/07/05/ukraine-banned-the-commu...), Zelensky banned opposition parties (https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/21/why-did-ukraine...) and opposing media (https://europeanjournalists.org/blog/2021/08/26/ukraine-pres...).
Also, can you get more sadistic in your message? Afghanistan and Iraq also had million of people who suffered tremendously from the criminal, genocidical invasion of their homeland. Ukraine is a developed nation, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, all the countries that the American Empire invaded were poor, underdeveloped and were already suffering without a war. Is disgusting how little value the lives of "poor brown people" have in the eyes of "the West".
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#13If this is correct, and it looks like it is: Good! 2022 has been a bad year for first Russia, then Iran and China and I hope they'll come crashing down, mostly because of the courage of Ukrainians as well as Iranian and Chinese citizens, but also because of actions like this. Good work Jetbrains!
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#14I've read various reports of Russians getting a hard time in Europe (woman slapped in face on the street while speaking russian on her phone). Reminded me that Russians escaping Russia are refugees too.
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#15If this is correct, and it looks like it is: Good! 2022 has been a bad year for first Russia, then Iran and China and I hope they'll come crashing down, mostly because of the courage of Ukrainians as well as Iranian and Chinese citizens, but also because of actions like this. Good work Jetbrains!
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What is imperialist about that particular opinion?
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#17If this is correct, and it looks like it is: Good! 2022 has been a bad year for first Russia, then Iran and China and I hope they'll come crashing down, mostly because of the courage of Ukrainians as well as Iranian and Chinese citizens, but also because of actions like this. Good work Jetbrains!
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Conversely this Chinese government(?) viewpoint miss-interprets western values in that it’s possible to both be supportive of and critical/protest one’s government at the same time.
And actually it’s one’s civic duty to help improve the government. What country is perfect? It’s odd to say a country is perfect or because a government accomplished a lot in the pastcitizens should be content and stop expecting further improvements.
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#18A very satisfied PyCharm user.
Doing the right thing even if it meant losing very valued folks and associated costs.
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Both were dictatorships and terrorist nations. Not even close to equivalent. Ukraine is a democracy of 45 million people that's never threatened another nation.
Lol. The USA is the premier terrorist nation in the world, they funded Al-Qaeda and countless anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorist cells across the world. So according to your definition, the USA deserves to be invaded, since they are "a terrorist nation". Also, Ukraine has not been a real democracy for a long time. The communist party is banned ( https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/07/05/ukraine-banned-the-com…
Maybe we can talk about the millions of Uighur China has stashed away in concentration camps?
The Chinese don’t exactly have clean hands either there bud. They have millions of their own citizens suffering, and dying, by their own governments hands.
If I were you, I’d choose other talking points when attempting to attack the west.
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#20If this is correct, and it looks like it is: Good! 2022 has been a bad year for first Russia, then Iran and China and I hope they'll come crashing down, mostly because of the courage of Ukrainians as well as Iranian and Chinese citizens, but also because of actions like this. Good work Jetbrains!
Now if only people in USA had courage to stand up and start prosecuting those behind drone strikes and invasions of Iraq and Afganistan.
One thing can be right without the other being wrong.
I personally welcome criticism against USA as long as it isn't based on hate of USA but on general ideas. Very simplified: one should be ready to be proportionally critical to everyone else.
For a practical example: I do not find it useful to listen to people who criticize USA (43000 dead civilians in Afghanistan in 20 years) while being utterly silent on Soviet Russia (somewhere between 500 000 and 2 500 000 dead in 10 years, sometimes in ways that make drone strikes look very civil).
Or, if you say Soviet Russia is long ago (it isn't, many of us grew up in its shadows), it seems Russia has already killed more civilians in Ukraine in 10 months than US killed civilians in Afghanistan in 20 years. This of course comes on top of what they did and still do in Syria etc.
Edit: I personally very much hope both:
- that the parts of US that haven't realized how much crazy some Americans have done abroad. I understand it will be very very hard to bring to justice those who are responsible, but at least find a way to make sure no nore weddings are bombed with precision guided weapons.
- that others who hate everything US is and stand for will at some point take a step back and realize how many people can thank American action for their lives.