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Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by tfsh »

These are addressing two very different concerns but framed as a singular one. Google is first and foremost a search engine - it searches the web for answers, the key point being the answers need to exist on the web. The other is a machine learning model tasked with deriving answers, and sometimes - if not very often answers will be provided in an authoritative tone whilst being completely and utterly incorrect.

Google is working on the latter called LaMDA[1] which is arguably more impressive and extensive than GPT-3, but for the reasons discussed above can't just be rolled out to the public. (edit: as others have noted, the code snippets themselves are wrong, but the Twitter poster didn't verify this because they're not interested in the answer, just the lack of one from Google).

It's certainly an interesting discussion for sure. Mathematics help (homework) is being built into search presently and one day for sure code-snippets will be embedded on search. However at Google's scale and the amount of scrutiny it receives spitting out machine-learning based results without any curation or substantiation is dangerous. Legally it is much safer to delegate to websites, thus alleviating any blame to the host.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaMDA

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by Jack_rando_fang »

For the use cases of question and answering, especially regarding technology, ChaGPT is indeed more flexible and convenient compared to Google and will surely replace a large part of this use case. However, Google is still irreplaceable as an index for the entire internet, and it will remain how we find content created by other _people_.

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by scrollaway »

drchopchop wrote: post #6

It's great, until people realize GPT-3 will generate answers that are demonstrably wrong. (And to make matters worse, can't show/link the source of the incorrect information!)

Yeah exactly.

Here's a thread by Grant Sanderson (Math youtuber 3Blue1Brown), with some.. interesting... examples.

https://twitter.com/3blue1brown/status/1598256290765377537

This one especially made me laugh: https://twitter.com/dgbrazales/status/1598262662739419138

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by echelon »

jstx1 wrote: post #2

I don’t think so. Google is still a search engine first and a question answering machine second. And for the question answering I will still prefer links over a blob of text that can’t be inspected or verified.

> Google is still a search engine first

The web has eroded to a place where a few platforms contain most of the salient information for consumers.

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by onion2k »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #4

Like Google can't acquire this or something similar and include it in its results if it's actually a threat.

There are companies out there that take the lead in a market and go on to refuse offers from Google. Google isn't all-powerful. People do say no to them.

GroupOn is probably that biggest. They turned down a $6bn offer. They're now worth $258m, down 92% from a peak of almost $16bn, so maybe not the best example over the long term, but they did say no.

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by Tepix »

drchopchop wrote: post #6

It's great, until people realize GPT-3 will generate answers that are demonstrably wrong. (And to make matters worse, can't show/link the source of the incorrect information!)

Exactly, i talked to ChatGPT and it gave me a lot of wrong information in an authorative tone. I consider it dangerous as-is.

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] »

tfsh wrote: post #11

These are addressing two very different concerns but framed as a singular one. Google is first and foremost a search engine - it searches the web for answers, the key point being the answers need to exist on the web. The other is a machine learning model tasked with deriving answers, and sometimes - if not very often answers will be provided in an authoritative tone whilst being completely and utterly incorrect. Goog…

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Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by adamsmith143 »

Tepix wrote: post #16
drchopchop wrote: post #6

It's great, until people realize GPT-3 will generate answers that are demonstrably wrong. (And to make matters worse, can't show/link the source of the incorrect information!)

Exactly, i talked to ChatGPT and it gave me a lot of wrong information in an authorative tone. I consider it dangerous as-is.

Turns out humans do this all the time and they actually have real power.

Re: Comparing Google and ChatGPT

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Post by joegahona »

This is the very definition of clickbait. Not the Tweeter's fault, but it's a gray area when sharing Tweets on HN, since Tweets do not have a "title" per se.

From the HN Guidelines:

> Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

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