I absolutely love this idea - a very Silicon Valley way to deal with the shortage of quality developers!
Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
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Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
#12Is it just me, or is it just the cultural difference (I am from germany, where we - god be blessed - have laws against these kind of hours)- but if I am expected to work 70h+/week in this thing, I belive, the same would be expected if anyone gets that job. Well done. slavery seems back at last.
That's fair. We wanted to make sure people know this isn't just "show up at 9, leave at 5." There are significant outside of the workday tasks like hacking on projects, reading books, meeting with colleagues, and teaching Ruby to kids. But I'm not chaining anyone to a desk for 70 hours because _I_ don't want to live that way, either.
OK, than I am totally OK with this. Because, if I look at my "work"-week, i do have 70+ hours. 40 - 50 @work, 20 - 25 refurbishing our house, 5 - 10 reading/learning new things, mostly while commuting. and for good measure, I would throw in the occasional (3 times per week+) blogposting.
So I really hope, you can find the right, dedicated person. If it wasn't for the "refurbishing the house" part of my life, I would ask, to join, just for the sake of learning RoR.
Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
#13I used a similar approach when i wanted Windows internals programmers in the early 90's. I just called it a internal training program, though.
Irrespective of the number of hours put up, i still think a person new to rails will get a chance to pick up a lot of knowledge and be mentored in the proces - and is a good deal for collage kids.
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#14I'll do my best to answer questions as they pop-up here today, but please feel free to email me at (contact at jumpstartlab) dot com if you want to know more.
Dang, you guys had to mention being hungry. I'm hungry, but that's because the GF hasn't come home with our food yet.
When is the deadline for the applications?
Edit: Downvoters, seriously? Isn't this a legit question? Just ignore the part about me being hungry. I'm just reading through hacker news while waiting for my GF to get back with my cheeseburger.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like a great opportunity. Is it open to non-US citizens? :)
Yes! We can work on the visas for exceptional candidates.
That's good to hear. I can't apply this time due to visa issues, but I hope the program is a success for both LivingSocial and the candidates so that more editions are done :)
J-1 "two years restriction"
Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
#16Is it just me, or is it just the cultural difference (I am from germany, where we - god be blessed - have laws against these kind of hours)- but if I am expected to work 70h+/week in this thing, I belive, the same would be expected if anyone gets that job. Well done. slavery seems back at last.
They're being paid. I think the slavery charge is a bit much. Plus, you don't know the program structure. That may include homework/group sort of stuff in addition to work and instruction. It'll be like 5 months of college with a job. It's no different if you actually calculate the time investment.
18-month commitment required
Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
#17Is it just me, or is it just the cultural difference (I am from germany, where we - god be blessed - have laws against these kind of hours)- but if I am expected to work 70h+/week in this thing, I belive, the same would be expected if anyone gets that job. Well done. slavery seems back at last.
German counter point:
Give me something that is _fun_ and/or _interesting_ and I'm happily spending a big amount of time on it - and in fact, I did that in Germany as well, laws or not.
I'm not sure I'd sign something that says "You're required to put in these hours".
The compensation is completely open - I don't know if these people are payed as junior developers or trainees/interns etc.. - I guess that factors into the equation.
My gripe: I'd expect these 24 people to work on actual products (otherwise I'd question the teaching/mentoring method), so to me it seems the company is getting a temporary team, possibly for cheap.
If I'd be younger, w/o a significant other and - well - applicable (I assume this is for US residents only) I'd apply anyway, though...
Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby
#18I used a similar approach when i wanted Windows internals programmers in the early 90's. I just called it a internal training program, though. Irrespective of the number of hours put up, i still think a person new to rails will get a chance to pick up a lot of knowledge and be mentored in the proces - and is a good deal for collage kids.
In a week, or so, you'll find out how this is very different from an internal training program. We're going to make this very external, a learning experience for whoever wants to be involved.
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#19Is the job salary negotiated before the program? I feel like it must be hard to accurately judge someone's programming value before they learn how to program.
What happens if, at the end of the 5-month program, they offer you a desperately low-paying salary? Have you wasted 5 months and moved to DC for nothing?
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They're being paid. I think the slavery charge is a bit much. Plus, you don't know the program structure. That may include homework/group sort of stuff in addition to work and instruction. It'll be like 5 months of college with a job. It's no different if you actually calculate the time investment.
18-month commitment required
That's pretty short, no? Get an unparalleled education in modern software development, step into a high-paying job, and we ask you to stay just 18 months?