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Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

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Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#11

"In one scenario, it appears, a driver is looking for a parking space and drives over a giant QR code on a street or in a parking garage. The QR code might either have exact directions to a specific parking spot, or it might link to a parking garage database of which parking slots are open." This strikes me as ripe for abuse.

Surely the technical part is no more open to abuse than normal parking signs in cities listing the amount of available spaces in certain car parks. The QR codes would contain very little information I would imagine but rather a key that is used by the car as an argument for further operations. Leaving all the directional data on the road would be way too easy to abuse.

You're thinking too small.

"it might link to a parking garage database of which parking slots are open"

Imagine creating a QR code, (or copying one that already exists) which tells the car to fetch information from http://your.competitor.example.com/. Then imagine going out late at night and sticking it on a busy motorway.

DOS by traffic.

Also. You better hope that your car doesn't have any vulnerabilities that can be abused by a specially crafted QR code, or by fetching specially crafted data that a QR code prompts it to fetch.

Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#12

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The instruction might be from a trusted source but how do you guarantee that it is in the correct place. How could people resist creating a loop of instructions...

I guess you could encode the GPS coordinates of the marker within it, and have the car verify that. Still not a great way of doing it though.

And when the key is compromised, have fun replacing every single QR code.

Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you could encode the GPS coordinates of the marker within it, and have the car verify that. Still not a great way of doing it though.

And when the key is compromised, have fun replacing every single QR code.

But if the signs are electronic, as in... providing the location of the nearest empty parking space... then updating them should be effortless.

Lots of assumptions here from everyone about how the signs are implemented and what the QR codes contain, but the general gist is that they could be secured. Assuming otherwise is also an assumption.

Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#18

Can't they just use NFC?

This is a patent and not a detailed report on what they intend to use or are implementing.

Strategically speaking the optimal case is a patent to cover the process of sending directions to a car, including everything needed to request them, using any means.

Everyone who produces cars will have to implement some form of that at some point to stay relevant, which makes this a very valuable patent.

Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The instruction might be from a trusted source but how do you guarantee that it is in the correct place. How could people resist creating a loop of instructions...

I guess you could encode the GPS coordinates of the marker within it, and have the car verify that. Still not a great way of doing it though.

If you know your location via GPS and connection to the net, why not just look up the instructions relevant to that location?

Re: Google’s self-driving car will use road-based QR codes to get directions

#20

"In one scenario, it appears, a driver is looking for a parking space and drives over a giant QR code on a street or in a parking garage. The QR code might either have exact directions to a specific parking spot, or it might link to a parking garage database of which parking slots are open." This strikes me as ripe for abuse.

It also wont work when it snows.
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